1 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:16,629 [Music] 2 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:19,680 bespoke radio for the masses headline 3 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,560 edition july 8th 1947 4 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:24,400 the army air forces has announced that a 5 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:26,880 flying disc has been found and is now in 6 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:28,560 the possession of the army 7 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:31,280 if the game is rigged change the game 8 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:33,280 game changer 9 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,080 i occasionally think how quickly 10 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:38,479 our difference is worldwide 11 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,759 would vanish 12 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:42,479 if we were facing an alien threat from 13 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:48,710 [Applause] 14 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:51,440 this is fade to black with your host 15 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:54,160 jimmy church on the game changer radio 16 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:57,360 network and kgra the global radio 17 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:03,189 i need your help to get to the year 18 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,070 [Music] 19 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:12,080 you are listening to fade to flag with 20 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:15,080 jimmy judge on the game changer network 21 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:18,800 [Music] 22 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:22,160 all right good evening 23 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:24,479 fade to black 24 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:29,280 bespoke radio for the messes 25 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:32,319 yeah how you doing today's tuesday 26 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:37,199 january 25th 2022 25 days 27 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:38,960 into the new year 28 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:43,840 only 340 days left let's do this 29 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:49,220 [Music] 30 00:06:57,490 --> 00:06:56,550 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 31 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:57,500 the middle of nowhere 32 00:07:01,909 --> 00:06:58,720 [Music] 33 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:01,919 a total undisclosed location but it is 34 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:02,910 beautiful in here 35 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:04,160 [Music] 36 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:06,319 that's right i would like to welcome 37 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:08,240 everybody listening all around the world 38 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:11,280 all across the united states 39 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:13,120 hither and tether to and fro back and 40 00:07:19,029 --> 00:07:15,440 forth up and down east and west north 41 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:19,039 and south far and near 42 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,000 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 43 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:24,560 changer and on x networks i am your host 44 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:26,479 jimmy church 45 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:30,319 what is cracking everybody how you doing 46 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,160 all right 47 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:34,560 tonight 48 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:39,039 very special first time guest 49 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:42,000 rick levine joins us 50 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:45,520 full night of astrology 51 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:48,560 from the best rick levine is here we're 52 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:52,160 going to be talking about astrology and 53 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,440 2022 get ready for all of that tomorrow 54 00:07:59,630 --> 00:07:57,440 night 55 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:59,640 giorgio sucralose 56 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:02,160 [Music] 57 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:05,520 man man man giorgio is back and i can't 58 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:06,800 even believe i'm saying this we're going 59 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:08,240 to be talking about 60 00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:10,479 ancient aliens 61 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:12,879 season 18. 62 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:15,199 oh man 63 00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:17,840 so that is a tomorrow night thursday is 64 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:19,520 another fader night with open lines all 65 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:20,720 night long 66 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:22,080 and uh looking forward to that what a 67 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,840 great week on the show last night the 68 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,599 ama 69 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:28,000 that was so much fun 70 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:28,960 and 71 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:31,759 i gotta tell you uh i didn't get to all 72 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:33,440 the questions and 73 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:35,839 and and things but uh we need to do more 74 00:08:40,149 --> 00:08:36,800 of these 75 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:40,159 i really enjoyed uh last night and the 76 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:42,080 best questions yet and they're always 77 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:44,640 great but man last night it was just a 78 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:47,440 spectacular night so much fun 79 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:49,519 and uh so what a great week on the show 80 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:50,880 tonight rick levine is here tomorrow 81 00:08:55,590 --> 00:08:53,440 night giorgio thursday 82 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:55,600 fader night and i want to remind 83 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,000 everybody what is coming up and that is 84 00:09:03,550 --> 00:09:00,640 the conscious life expo this is coming 85 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:03,560 up february 4th through the 7th at the 86 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:05,760 lax hilton 87 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,279 i will be hosting all weekend long 88 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:11,760 uh friday night we'll do the uh ancient 89 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:13,360 secrets panel 90 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:15,680 in the plaza ballroom and that'll be 91 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:16,959 friday night 92 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:18,720 i'll be introducing and doing 93 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:20,720 introductions all weekend long 94 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:23,040 and uh we've got our booth there and 95 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:26,000 then saturday night uh for me the 96 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:28,160 highlight of the weekend 97 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:30,080 i will be 98 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:32,080 uh 99 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:36,470 looking at 100 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:37,440 uh 101 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:39,279 something just caught my eye 102 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:43,200 uh saturday night is expo's got talent 103 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:44,560 and if you're gonna be at the conscious 104 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:46,240 life expo that's where you are going to 105 00:09:52,389 --> 00:09:49,120 be uh saturday night right there 106 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:52,399 uh in the la jolla ballroom 107 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:54,880 and uh that's gonna be just amazing 108 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:57,600 and uh the ufo panel with serena it's 109 00:10:00,949 --> 00:09:58,480 just 110 00:10:02,389 --> 00:10:00,959 uh a great weekend and tonight's guest 111 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:02,399 rick levine 112 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:05,120 will also be at the conscious life expo 113 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:07,120 i have got links for tickets and 114 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:09,600 information in the video description box 115 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,800 below if you're going to be in los 116 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:12,560 angeles if you can make it 117 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:16,720 um i will be on thursday night 118 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:19,600 i'm going gonna give away some tickets 119 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:22,160 to the conscious life expo i'm gonna be 120 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:23,680 giving away 121 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:25,680 pairs of tickets 122 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:29,040 on thursday night okay so 123 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:30,959 if you're in los angeles if you can make 124 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:33,120 it out and and come out and spend the 125 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:35,600 weekend with us that would be great i'm 126 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:37,040 going to give away tickets on thursday 127 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:40,959 night okay all right let's uh i don't 128 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:43,200 know if you guys saw lisa's pictures of 129 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:44,800 of pegasus 130 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:47,120 uh her new crystal skull they are 131 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:49,839 absolutely incredible lisa you 132 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:50,720 you 133 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:51,600 wow 134 00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:56,480 sedona and uh she went out to uh hang 135 00:11:00,630 --> 00:10:58,480 out with some friends 136 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:00,640 do a little uh crystal skull ceremony 137 00:11:04,990 --> 00:11:02,480 some action she picked up her new 138 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:05,000 crystal skull pegasus from einstein the 139 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:07,600 crystalskull.com and carolyn ford and i 140 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:08,880 want you to visit einstein the 141 00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:10,560 crystalskull.com 142 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:12,959 and use the promo code jimmy for 10 off 143 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:15,839 of your crystal skull order today 144 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:19,839 and there you go the pictures oh man 145 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:22,000 this big 146 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:23,040 this 147 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:27,279 pegasus incredible follow me on twitter 148 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:29,600 at jchurchradio 149 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:30,880 all right follow me on twitter right 150 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:33,200 there jchurchradio the sandbox is 151 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:36,320 hashtag f2b on twitter 152 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,040 and any questions right there hashtag 153 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:41,120 f2bq 154 00:11:45,430 --> 00:11:42,800 on twitter hello to everybody that's 155 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:45,440 watching and listening all around the 156 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:49,279 world let's get to the breaking news 157 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:50,000 i 158 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:52,160 okay 159 00:11:56,629 --> 00:11:54,399 i'm just gonna share this with you 160 00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:56,639 now we're talking maybe a billion years 161 00:12:00,949 --> 00:11:58,639 so i don't think there's any reason to 162 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:00,959 freak out yet 163 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:03,279 but and i talk about this all the time 164 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:05,600 uh when do we build those interstellar 165 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:08,000 ships and and blow this popsicle stand 166 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:09,519 right well 167 00:12:14,389 --> 00:12:12,079 it turns out earth's core 168 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:14,399 may be cooling on a shorter time 169 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:16,480 schedule than we've been led to believe 170 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:18,720 according to scientists from the swiss 171 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:22,160 university eth zurich and the washington 172 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,959 d.c based carnegie institution of 173 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:26,160 science 174 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:29,279 that means less time before our blue 175 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:32,800 planet turns into a lifeless new version 176 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:34,800 of mars 177 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:37,920 the core is cooling one and a half times 178 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:40,160 faster than assumed and if that number 179 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:42,480 doesn't sound very big consider 180 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:46,480 that it's literally fifty percent higher 181 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,040 that directly affects the lifespan of 182 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,600 our planet as a livable 183 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:52,800 a space 184 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,240 place 185 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:56,639 there's no way to pin down an exact 186 00:13:01,990 --> 00:12:59,680 timeline of this cooling but earth 187 00:13:03,110 --> 00:13:02,000 like other rocky planets like you know 188 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:03,120 mercury 189 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:04,240 mars 190 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:07,680 is cooling and becoming inactive much 191 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:10,800 faster than expected 192 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:12,000 wow 193 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,200 all right axiom space 194 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:17,920 axiom space is in the news axiom space 195 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:21,519 plans to build a movie studio module 196 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,600 for the international space station by 197 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:26,000 2024 198 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,399 space entertainment enterprise which is 199 00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:30,800 co-producing tom cruise's upcoming 200 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:32,959 unnamed space movie 201 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,360 has commissioned houston-based axiom 202 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:38,160 space to build an inflatable space 203 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:40,399 station module that contains a 204 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:44,880 production studio by december of 2024 205 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:47,040 the facilities will enable development 206 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:48,800 production recording broadcasting and 207 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:51,680 live streaming of content the company 208 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:54,240 intends to produce its own content and 209 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:56,880 events in the module while also making 210 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,320 it available 211 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,560 to third parties 212 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:02,959 that's crazy town right there 213 00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:06,399 a 190 year old tortoise 214 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:08,079 named jonathan 215 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:11,839 has become the oldest tortoise ever and 216 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:13,360 at the same time 217 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:17,600 the oldest living land animal right now 218 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:19,199 on earth 219 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:21,519 jonathan is estimated to have been born 220 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,760 in 221 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:24,399 1832 222 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:27,199 which means he turned or turned to 100 223 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:31,360 190 years old this year in 2022 224 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:33,199 guinness world records announced all of 225 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:36,000 this back on january 12th to put things 226 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:38,959 into context jonathan was born before 227 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:41,760 queen victoria ascended the british 228 00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:42,800 throne 229 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:45,680 in 1837 230 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:47,120 jonathan 231 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:49,680 lives like the king that he is on saint 232 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:52,720 helena island in the south atlantic 233 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:53,920 ocean 234 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:57,839 which is just incredible and uh for your 235 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,560 straight out of black mirror news of the 236 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:01,920 day 237 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,600 are you ready 238 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:06,000 david columbo 239 00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:09,519 a 19 year old german security researcher 240 00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:12,160 who somehow managed to gain remote 241 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:15,839 access to dozens of teslas 242 00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:19,199 that's right dozens of tesla's spread 243 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:21,279 around the world has just spilled the 244 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:22,800 beans 245 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,800 on how he did it 246 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:26,639 in a medium post 247 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:29,360 columbo provided an in-depth accounting 248 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:32,720 and timeline of how he could remotely 249 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:34,720 run commands like 250 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:37,600 adjusting a vehicle's stereo volume 251 00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:41,120 manipulating doors and windows and even 252 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:45,759 engaging tesla's keyless driving tool 253 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:48,320 without drivers even knowing he was 254 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:49,839 doing it 255 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,000 he also revealed how he was able to gain 256 00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:54,240 access to the vehicles through a 257 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,360 security flaw in an open source logging 258 00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,040 tool called 259 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:01,440 teslamate 260 00:16:05,269 --> 00:16:02,720 that's right 261 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,279 he found over 25 teslas from 13 262 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:07,279 countries within hours 263 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:10,079 from germany belgium finland denmark the 264 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,040 uk 265 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,600 the united states canada italy ireland 266 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,920 france us austria 267 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:18,000 and switzerland 268 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:20,000 the write-up was part of colombo's 269 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:23,199 official responsible disclosure report 270 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,880 that he submitted to tesla's security 271 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:28,240 team 272 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:29,920 black mirror 273 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:31,600 could you imagine 274 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:32,959 right 275 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:35,519 driving down the freeway 276 00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:36,399 right 277 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:38,399 driving down the freeway and your 278 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:40,000 windows are open and closing doors are 279 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:41,600 opening and closing you're walking up to 280 00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,839 the car parking lot it's it's starting 281 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:46,000 itself it drives away he could even 282 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:48,560 steal the car 283 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,440 think about that black mirror 284 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:53,040 all right 285 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,560 let's get this show cracking happy 286 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:56,959 birthday to today 287 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,560 adam and the ants bases gary tibbs today 288 00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:02,320 is 63. 289 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:05,679 great bass player guitarist andy cox of 290 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:09,360 the beat and fine young cannibals 291 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:10,400 today 292 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:12,640 is 65 years old 293 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,280 our dead guy's birthday today is 294 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:17,120 moment of silence please 295 00:17:20,029 --> 00:17:18,480 antonio 296 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:20,039 jobim 297 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:22,959 1927 to 1994 298 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:25,600 joe beam is considered to be one of the 299 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:28,720 most important composers of the 20th 300 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:33,120 century and that is not a joke 301 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:34,320 joe beam 302 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:38,880 is the father of bossa nova and in 1965 303 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:41,840 the album gets gilberto was the first 304 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,240 jazz album to win the grammy award for 305 00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,039 album of the year it also won for best 306 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:49,440 jazz instrumental album individual or 307 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:52,000 group and for best engineered album 308 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,520 non-classical 309 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,679 that album had 310 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,160 the girl from ipanema 311 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,080 one of the greatest songs of all time 312 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:02,799 which also won the grammy award 313 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:06,000 for record of the year 314 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,640 on december 8th 1994 while recovering 315 00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:10,960 from surgery at mount sinai hospital in 316 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:12,320 new york city 317 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:14,720 he had a cardiac arrest caused by a 318 00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:16,960 pulmonary embolism 319 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,360 and two hours later another cardiac 320 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:22,559 arrest from which he died 321 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,039 he was just 67 years old 322 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,600 happy birthday joe bean if you ever get 323 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,200 a chance 324 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:31,039 go and watch 325 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,360 the frank sinatra joe beam videos 326 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:37,679 from the frank sinatra show 327 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,400 hoo hoo hoo 328 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:42,080 incredible 329 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:44,720 on this day in history 1961 330 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:47,360 president john f kennedy becomes the 331 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:50,640 first u.s president to hold 332 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:54,080 a live televised news conference 333 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:57,760 that didn't happen until 1961. 334 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,160 that's incredible that's your 335 00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:02,880 otd fader fact 336 00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:04,880 all right here you go 337 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:06,880 there's a good one 338 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,960 they're all good but this one this one's 339 00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:10,400 special 340 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:12,799 fader fact 341 00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:15,600 nasa only uses 342 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:19,280 15 digits of pi 343 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,440 for calculating interplanetary travel 344 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:25,679 at 40 digits 345 00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,120 you could calculate the circumference 346 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:31,039 of a circle 347 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:35,200 the size of the visible universe 348 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,600 to an accuracy equal to the diameter of 349 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:41,039 a single 350 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,400 hydrogen atom 351 00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:46,000 and that 352 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,640 is your fader fact 353 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:50,000 think about that 354 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:52,400 tonight very special guest rick levine 355 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:53,600 joins us 356 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:56,000 first time guest 357 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,919 tonight's an extraordinary night and we 358 00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,280 are going to do a full night of 359 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,280 astrology tonight with the very best 360 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,840 astrologer in the world rick levine is 361 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:05,039 with us 362 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:08,799 tomorrow night giorgio soukalos is here 363 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,240 he is back and yes i keep saying it 364 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:14,240 we're going to be talking about season 365 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:17,760 18 of ancient aliens 366 00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,120 how did we get here i it seems like i 367 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,120 mentioned this every time that 368 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:25,360 giorgio was on the show 369 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,480 but i specifically 370 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:30,000 remember 371 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:33,280 the first episode of ancient aliens 372 00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,360 and which i ended up recording on my dvr 373 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,760 it was two hours i think the first three 374 00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,919 episodes were two hours each 375 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,679 and i watched that first episode i 376 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,240 watched them all over and over and over 377 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,400 again i could not believe a show like 378 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,760 this 379 00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,520 was on television 380 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:53,520 and i felt at that time that this show 381 00:21:02,149 --> 00:20:57,360 was like made for me pumapunku right 382 00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,159 and uh it was shortly after that 383 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,559 it had to have been 384 00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,720 that month 385 00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:08,960 right in there they got giorgio to speak 386 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,159 at uh los angeles mufon steve murillo 387 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,720 and uh and the crew over there 388 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,880 and i was like that's that's that dude 389 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,799 from ancient aliens 390 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,679 and i went out and and checked that out 391 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,159 and this was obviously 392 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:27,120 before it all broke loose 393 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,480 and 394 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:29,760 i mean 395 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,559 to go from that and that memory to where 396 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,480 we are today 397 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:36,799 what a journey tomorrow night we'll be 398 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,440 talking about all of that with giorgio 399 00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,280 soukalosa what's coming up and what's 400 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,919 already aired uh for season 18. we'll be 401 00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,120 doing all of that tomorrow night with 402 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:47,200 giorgio thursday night's another fader 403 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,880 night with open lines all night long now 404 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:50,400 it's time for me to hit 405 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,029 um 406 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:03,110 rivermoonwellness.com 407 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:05,440 all right 408 00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:13,270 over the last week 409 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:18,710 to really confuse 410 00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:22,640 the google facebook advertising ai 411 00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:30,149 that's right 412 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,360 i'm now searching 413 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:34,480 for the most 414 00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,789 no normal no normal searches out of me 415 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:44,159 time travel 416 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:46,000 right no 417 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:50,320 no no searches like that not this week 418 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,440 and as the ai tries to figure out who i 419 00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:54,960 am 420 00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:57,360 and what they can sell me 421 00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:00,799 or how to turn my info into dollars 422 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,600 well 423 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,799 i thought i'd give them a little 424 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:04,960 something to work with 425 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:12,549 here are my top 10 searches for the week 426 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,600 and 427 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,080 i need to stress 428 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,720 i have searched 429 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:20,320 these top 10 430 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,870 are you ready 431 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:29,510 number 10 432 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,960 the best way to create stomach acid 433 00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:35,120 and ruin sleep 434 00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,549 that's right 435 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:41,679 now 436 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:44,159 as i go down my list 437 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,279 you 438 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,000 can search for the same thing 439 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:50,799 you want to change what's popping up 440 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:53,840 follow my lead 441 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,110 how to make perfect 442 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,880 white teeth 443 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:02,480 yellow 444 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:09,590 that's number nine 445 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,510 the best place to gamble 446 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:17,200 in utah 447 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,029 number seven 448 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:32,149 i have perfect skin 449 00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:33,520 i need 450 00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,350 that's right 451 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:41,600 i've searched these 452 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:46,240 over and over again 453 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,590 how to close all of my credit cards 454 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:56,080 and ruin my credit 455 00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:02,549 think about it 456 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:09,350 the best way to get rid of perfect abs 457 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,549 number four 458 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,830 how to easily lose money 459 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,080 fast 460 00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:28,080 that's right 461 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,919 now i want you to think about what pops 462 00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:31,440 up in your feed what pops up in your 463 00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,919 feet you know credit cards and uh under 464 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,520 eye creams 465 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:37,360 right 466 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,159 antacids 467 00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:44,320 oh man implants teeth 468 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,149 just go with the opposite let's go with 469 00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,120 the opposite whatever it is 470 00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,400 number three 471 00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:58,960 i'm too smart 472 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:00,320 best way 473 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,070 that's a good search term 474 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:13,909 number two i have perfect hair and scalp 475 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:25,590 and my number one my number one search 476 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,430 penis shortening 477 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,110 that's right 478 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,360 how to confuse 479 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,840 the ai bots what are they going to do 480 00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:41,840 with this 481 00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,320 what are they going to do how 482 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,400 i'm going to keep everybody updated on 483 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:48,799 the new advertising and 484 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,039 you know that shows up for me and 485 00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,919 and i haven't seen normally 486 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,200 you know this is going to be very 487 00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,120 interesting there's no question about it 488 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,960 and normally 489 00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,559 when you do a search 490 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,679 term 491 00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:06,480 or you do a purchase on amazon 492 00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,520 you immediately right 493 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,960 i went 494 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:12,640 check this out 495 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,000 i went and downloaded this i'm gonna 496 00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:18,640 just show this uh to the camera this is 497 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:20,799 ring sizes 498 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:25,520 i literally downloaded a ring size chart 499 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:26,480 okay 500 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:32,870 i did that last week 501 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,840 i downloaded a ring size chart 502 00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,840 and within 503 00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,200 minutes 504 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,600 because i was done i printed it out i 505 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:45,279 put it on the table 506 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,840 within 507 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,240 minutes my advertising 508 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,600 top to bottom anywhere i go 509 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,600 is rings 510 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,799 it was instantaneous i wasn't shopping 511 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,080 for a ring 512 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,600 my search term was 513 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:06,480 ring size chart 514 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,399 search term 515 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,399 it was within minutes 516 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,559 and i just got angry i just thought that 517 00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,600 that is that that i mean 518 00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:20,399 we all know this goes on but i mean holy 519 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:24,559 crap right and and it hasn't stopped so 520 00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,120 i started this 521 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,799 i've been copying and pasting these 522 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,480 search terms 523 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:31,440 and 524 00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:36,960 gotten any strange 525 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,159 i haven't had a company try to sell me a 526 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,480 teeth yellowing cream hasn't happened 527 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,880 yet but i'm assuming that toothpaste is 528 00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,799 out there somewhere on the market i mean 529 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:48,399 as we all know 530 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:52,000 every single day our personal files are 531 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,360 updated 532 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:55,360 megabytes and megabytes and megabytes 533 00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,000 and megabytes of information goes into 534 00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,399 your personal file every single day it's 535 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,480 updated it's compiled it's sold it's 536 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,760 resold it's traded it's a commodity 537 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:07,919 right to the highest bidder 538 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:12,159 right and the question is that i have 539 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,760 who would want 540 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:15,279 this guy 541 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:16,640 right 542 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:25,110 it's gonna be interesting 543 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:28,640 and i'm i'm serious who wants this guy 544 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,840 and the confusing part for the ai 545 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:33,600 they've got something established on me 546 00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,080 and established on you already and 547 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:38,799 suddenly these search terms start going 548 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,000 in it's gonna be interesting 549 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:43,440 it's gonna be confusing they don't 550 00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,120 they're not gonna know what to do 551 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:47,279 i'm gonna keep you posted i i thought it 552 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,480 was fun 553 00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,320 maybe 554 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,720 i should post the list so all of you can 555 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:54,480 just copy and paste it 556 00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:58,320 and we'll get some trends going 557 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:59,120 right 558 00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:00,480 we should uh 559 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,590 hashtag i want yellow teeth 560 00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,960 i'm serious 561 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,799 we should we should get this going it's 562 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,960 a it's a community effort 563 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,960 that's why this is fade to black and 564 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,399 i've got the best audience in the world 565 00:30:23,510 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00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:32,610 is jimmy church radio 669 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,109 [Music] 670 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,800 all right welcome back fade to black i'm 671 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,320 your host jimmy church tonight rick 672 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,359 levine joins us for the first time 673 00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,800 astrology 674 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,640 2012 675 00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,359 maybe even beyond tomorrow night giorgio 676 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,599 soucalos is back with us 677 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,440 going to be talking about ancient alien 678 00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,960 season 18. 679 00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,560 thursday night is another fader night 680 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,240 with open lines all night long tonight 681 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,200 it's all about wrigley now he is joining 682 00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,440 us for the first time and we're gonna do 683 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,800 a full evening uh i want to learn more 684 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,119 about astrology what it is 685 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:23,440 and what rick may be able to tell us 686 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,240 about the days and the year ahead i want 687 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,480 to get into all of that he is a widely 688 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,640 respected voice in the global astrology 689 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,640 community he has a special gift for 690 00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,880 bridging the gaps between astrology and 691 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,520 spirituality science and religion the 692 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,599 head and the heart co-founder of 693 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,280 stariq.com 694 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,599 founding trustee of kepler college for 695 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:45,599 eight years co-author of barnes and 696 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,200 noble's your astrology guide every month 697 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,280 tens of thousands of astrology students 698 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:53,280 from around the world view his teachings 699 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,400 on youtube 700 00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,720 for nearly 20 years levine's daily 701 00:37:02,950 --> 00:36:59,520 horoscopes have reached millions of 702 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:02,960 readers online rick is as comfortable 703 00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,599 writing mass-market sunshine astrology 704 00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,119 as he is pushing the technical and 705 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,680 theoretical envelopes of the profession 706 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,320 every month astrology students from 707 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,280 around the world get into his teachings 708 00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,079 now he's a wizard by day 709 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,240 i can tell that by his shirt by the way 710 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:22,800 a net junkie by night and denies that 711 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:24,760 time traveling aliens have implanted 712 00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:28,000 microprocessors into his cerebral cortex 713 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,119 and i would like to welcome for the 714 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,359 first time to fade to black rick levine 715 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:34,160 rick good evening my man how you doing 716 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,920 oh i'm doing great but i hope i haven't 717 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:37,839 just died because that was such an 718 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:39,760 awesome introduction things that you say 719 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,960 to people once they're gone yeah i know 720 00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,880 you know this is the deal let's get the 721 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:46,640 first time guest disclaimer out of the 722 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,440 way 723 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:49,200 uh rick which it's just you and i 724 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,640 sitting on my couch having a 725 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,320 conversation as friends and where that 726 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,320 conversation starts and starts where it 727 00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,240 ends it ends but we're gonna end as 728 00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,240 friends there you go first time 729 00:38:01,270 --> 00:38:00,240 disclaimer out of the way you ready to 730 00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:01,280 go 731 00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:05,280 of the gate 732 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,359 where can i get one of those shirts 733 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,040 well you know 734 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:13,680 it's actually the most asked question i 735 00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,480 get on my youtube channel 736 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:17,280 and 737 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,200 um the honest answer is um 738 00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:23,200 let's see how do i say this you can't 739 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,119 yes i i i felt that coming i felt that 740 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:29,280 coming i i get these they're they are 741 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:32,800 hand painted and handmade where i teach 742 00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,920 in uh indonesia and bali every year and 743 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:37,839 every time i go i go there's a 744 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:41,440 workers-owned textile collective and i 745 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,760 have them make this shirt to my pattern 746 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,440 but they're all because they're handmade 747 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:46,720 everyone's different they're all 748 00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:49,839 different colors and i have these in red 749 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,079 blue green black orange 750 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,240 long sleeve short sleeve linen button 751 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,240 down collared but 752 00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,480 they're mine yeah every every photo that 753 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:01,040 i've seen of you over the years 754 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,240 um 755 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,320 you you've got the pattern you know 756 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:06,640 you've got that crazy cool lightning 757 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,520 bolt 758 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,760 and but it's always a different shirt 759 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,520 i'm like man 760 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:13,760 rick is going to think about steve jobs 761 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,800 black turtleneck or gary zuckerberg's 762 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,640 you know gray t-shirts 763 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,640 mine is like that except i have to think 764 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,800 of what color am i wearing yeah yeah so 765 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:25,440 cool so cool so cool um 766 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,119 now uh i i want to uh you know do a 767 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:31,920 pretty deep dive on astrology 768 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,400 and i have i have astrologers on the 769 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,680 show and i've got friends that are 770 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,119 astrologers 771 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,040 but um 772 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,359 i i usually go into a different 773 00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,560 direction 774 00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,079 but but tonight with you it's an 775 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:47,119 opportunity uh for us and i've been 776 00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,320 watching 777 00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,640 uh the email and the comments about the 778 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,119 excitement about having you on the show 779 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,880 and uh 780 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,280 and i want to actually 781 00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,200 pick your brain on a few things so i can 782 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,320 clarify and learn something uh tonight 783 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:04,079 about astrology 784 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,040 and 785 00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,920 that just saying that puts the pressure 786 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,800 on 787 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,480 and when you are a leader in the 788 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,480 community like you are 789 00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:14,480 do you feel that kind of pressure do you 790 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:17,839 have to choose your words carefully 791 00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,030 [Laughter] 792 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,720 i've actually been doing this long 793 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:26,720 enough that i'm quite comfortable with 794 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:27,440 it 795 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,920 this conversation uh i enjoy this 796 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,359 conversation 797 00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,920 whether it's being observed by a few 798 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,599 hundred thousand people 799 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,000 at once or whether i'm sitting on an 800 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,800 airplane next to a nun and having the 801 00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,280 conversation with her doesn't matter i 802 00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,839 love having the conversation and i'm 803 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,000 almost always able to bridge whatever 804 00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,079 apparent gaps there might be 805 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,960 um and and so 806 00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,800 no i don't i don't choose my words 807 00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:01,200 carefully what comes out comes out 808 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:08,790 i don't know and if i ever figure out 809 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,079 how that means i'll have a way out 810 00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:13,920 right right right right 811 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,839 uh actually uh as a youngster 812 00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:19,520 i had 813 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,400 the privilege of having a really good 814 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,000 education grade school up um i just i i 815 00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:28,800 was lucky i went to uh 816 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,520 a public school in a small town in 817 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,880 upstate new york where there was a 818 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,800 college and so 819 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:36,720 and so a lot of the 820 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,319 um teachers and so on uh you know knew 821 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,760 they were teaching you know they were 822 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,520 kind of like in the college environment 823 00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,520 even though it was grade school in high 824 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,640 school 825 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,359 uh i began studying music from second 826 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,400 grade onward i'm not a performing 827 00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:53,599 musician 828 00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,040 um 829 00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,000 although these days i can pick up any 830 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,000 kind of straight flute and 831 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,960 and and make the best of it uh straight 832 00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,040 flutes meaning like penny whistles or 833 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,359 recorders or native american flutes and 834 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,160 that kind of uh instrument um but i mean 835 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,160 i took violin from second grade all the 836 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,280 way through high school orchestra and uh 837 00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,760 piano and trombone through high school 838 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,560 marching band and this might sound 839 00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,839 peripheral 840 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:23,839 but actually when i say that i'm an 841 00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:27,680 astrologer i'm actually a musician 842 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:30,960 listening to and interacting 843 00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,119 with hyper extremely very low 844 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:38,640 frequencies that are so low frequency we 845 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,280 can't hear them with our ears but the 846 00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,359 music of the spheres is something that's 847 00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,400 very real it's not just a concept 848 00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,480 we'll get into that a little bit later 849 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:51,119 but you add the music background and 850 00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:52,319 theory 851 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,119 to 852 00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:55,920 my love of language 853 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,640 and science and math i went to college 854 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:00,960 to be a geometry teacher 855 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,640 and here i am 50 years later a geometry 856 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:06,960 teacher right right because astrology is 857 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:11,520 about spatial relationships and geometry 858 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:12,480 and 859 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:16,560 math 860 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:19,920 and also from g's probably fifth grade 861 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:23,280 is when i think i discovered um 862 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:26,880 ufos project blue book at that time 863 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:30,800 um condon report um and uh but reading 864 00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,000 about ufos and psychic stuff and 865 00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,200 hypnotism and astrology and numerology 866 00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,800 and it was just it was like a 867 00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,720 smorgasbord it was like there were so 868 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,359 many things that were out there to learn 869 00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,119 about that everyone said i shouldn't go 870 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,800 near which of course 871 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:48,560 that's the way to get me into it don't 872 00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:51,680 do that okay i'm doing that right um and 873 00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:55,599 so it really wasn't until i hit college 874 00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,280 that astrology became an interest 875 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:01,520 but it was quite frankly 876 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,520 i i just assumed that i would go on and 877 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,760 get my phd i wanted to go to the jungian 878 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,280 institute 879 00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,119 you know the whole freudian jungian 880 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,319 depth psychology this was the 60s when i 881 00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:14,880 was in college and so i really did have 882 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,079 uh you know a a 60s experience in 883 00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,200 college um you know sex drugs rock and 884 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:23,520 roll protesting i mean that was where i 885 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:26,560 lived for you know four years of my life 886 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,920 and yet it was in that period of time 887 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:32,400 while i was plowing my way through the 888 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,280 original writings of carl jung someone 889 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:36,960 gave me a book 890 00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,400 by an americanized frenchman named dane 891 00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,119 rudjar and the title of the book was the 892 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,680 astrology of personality 893 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,520 and the subtitle although i'm not going 894 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:49,200 to get it exactly right i'm looking up 895 00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,200 it's not on the bookshelf in front of me 896 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,359 the subtitle was something like a 897 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,920 critical analysis of astrology in light 898 00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,920 of 20th century psychology and 899 00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:00,319 philosophy sounds about right basically 900 00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,839 a deep dive 901 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,160 into the interrelationships between the 902 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:06,560 uh western academic tradition 903 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,240 culminating in jungian psychology 904 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,560 and astrology and at that point in time 905 00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,880 when oh my god this isn't just like some 906 00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:16,720 parlor game that works 907 00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:19,760 this is like there's real stuff here and 908 00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:22,880 um and that was 50 909 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:26,000 some odd years ago and i've 910 00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,040 never 911 00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,760 lost interest since and in fact i'm more 912 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,680 fascinated more interested and there's 913 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,920 more for me to learn now than there was 914 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,000 50 years ago when i stepped into this 915 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,160 when you were starting your research 916 00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,400 into this uh 917 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,079 you're you're looking at you know the 918 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,560 science and psychology side from you 919 00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,720 know noted academics 920 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,960 and then you have the other side 921 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,960 which is you know the daily horoscopes 922 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,440 that are in in the in the newspapers uh 923 00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:56,000 that we're all too familiar with 924 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:57,920 were you looking at the two of them and 925 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,440 comparing are those apples and oranges 926 00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,839 and and and what did that mean to you 927 00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,599 when you're looking at the popular 928 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,520 culture side too as well 929 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,240 well first of all in the spirit of full 930 00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,319 astrological disclosure 931 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,040 i should um mention 932 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,160 that for 17 years 933 00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,520 i wrote a daily horoscope column for 12 934 00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,599 signs every day 935 00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,359 um at its 936 00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,040 biggest it was online always um i 937 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,599 i was getting you know tens of millions 938 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,760 of people reading it every day 939 00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,520 my column was on 940 00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,319 google when they were doing content um 941 00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:39,680 aol 942 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:41,839 myspace when they were something la 943 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,160 times carried my column for years that's 944 00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,280 right uh i mean and and and so um and so 945 00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:50,000 i'm not gonna sit here and 946 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,960 and 947 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:51,920 um 948 00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,880 kind of set aside the daily horoscope 949 00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,040 columns as garbage 950 00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,200 and yet there is 951 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,280 a distinct difference 952 00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,640 between 953 00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:04,800 daily horoscope writing 954 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,680 and the true body of astrology and 955 00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:10,480 astrology knowledge number one and 956 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,680 number two 957 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,040 there's a 958 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,280 great difference between 959 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,160 a daily horoscope column written 960 00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,559 by an astrologer who is trying to do 961 00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:23,280 real work versus 962 00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,000 um so many newspapers just grab someone 963 00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,760 off the floor and go you know we need 964 00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,599 someone to write the astrology column 965 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,359 but i don't know astrology don't worry 966 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:32,880 about it read a few and make this 967 00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,160 up right and so and so it's not a place 968 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,720 where you can go and rely on it to be 969 00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,000 accurate 970 00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,599 but i think one of the reasons for my 971 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,880 success 972 00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,760 in writing daily horoscopes was i 973 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,599 approached it as a 974 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,480 way to reach people who were not 975 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,359 astrologers but might be intrigued or 976 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,680 have their interests peaked and it's 977 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:57,280 been said 978 00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,319 that 979 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,480 sun sign astrology which is what you 980 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,800 would call daily horoscopes you know the 981 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:04,240 i'm a 982 00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,440 that's not a real sign um 983 00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,440 but um 984 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:14,160 but that whole sunshine astrology 985 00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:15,200 approach 986 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:18,559 it's been said that sunshine astrology 987 00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,960 is the gateway drug to real astrology 988 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,440 many people get into astrology because 989 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,119 they start reading stuff and they go you 990 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,520 know what there's something different 991 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:31,280 about a capricorn 992 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,960 compared to a scorpio and i know three 993 00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,040 capricorns and they're all kind of 994 00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,440 they're very different individually but 995 00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,559 they have this thing that i can see 996 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:44,800 that is capricorn 997 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,440 versus this person or that person and so 998 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,800 there's something to those 999 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:50,319 generalizations 1000 00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:53,680 tip 1001 00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:58,640 that is not at all just about what's 1002 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,760 your sign 1003 00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:01,520 i can uh 1004 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,559 i can see i didn't really take it 1005 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:07,680 seriously uh when i was a kid 1006 00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,640 um 1007 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:11,119 but i can see now 1008 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:12,960 the traits 1009 00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,160 in the signs in individuals and i never 1010 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,319 used to take that serious and i used to 1011 00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:20,800 think i'm a libra right born october 1012 00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,599 10th 1013 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,960 i'm a libra 1014 00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:24,240 and 1015 00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:25,119 uh 1016 00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:34,319 october 28th right okay 1017 00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,280 two vastly different individuals 1018 00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:39,280 she is a scorpio 1019 00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:42,839 and and i started to think uh 1020 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,800 that my the the label i should say of 1021 00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,240 being a libra 1022 00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,800 is something that i can't control it is 1023 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,720 who i am 1024 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,040 and i s and now i'm taking it very very 1025 00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,040 serious and i see a virgo i see a leo 1026 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:00,960 and i understand 1027 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,680 see now what you're saying is all true 1028 00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:06,480 and valid but part of the problem is 1029 00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:07,359 that 1030 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:08,480 um 1031 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,160 is that saying that you're a libra 1032 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,319 is only saying something about the 1033 00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:16,160 relationship between the earth and the 1034 00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,960 sun 1035 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,119 what i mean by that is very simple very 1036 00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:21,280 simple astronomy the earth goes around 1037 00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:23,119 the sun once a year that's what we call 1038 00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:24,160 a year 1039 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,920 if anyone tells me oh i don't believe in 1040 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:27,599 astrology i go oh cool you mean you 1041 00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,079 don't use a calendar how do you get by 1042 00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,480 because a calendar is astrology 101 1043 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,640 that's that's what it is 1044 00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:36,400 we can come back to that a little bit 1045 00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:37,599 later too 1046 00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:38,319 but 1047 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,240 the idea that on your birthday 1048 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,920 every year 1049 00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:45,200 the earth 1050 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:48,160 has come around the sun again and is in 1051 00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,160 the same relative position to the cosmos 1052 00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:54,400 as it was on the day you were born 1053 00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,200 and so we look up and we say 1054 00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,960 that the sun 1055 00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,400 is moving through a certain 1056 00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:03,119 constellation or is in a certain area in 1057 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,319 the sky 1058 00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,559 and then we say i'm an aries or i'm a 1059 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,200 libra or whatever sign it is but the 1060 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,720 thing is 1061 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,960 that not only does the earth go around 1062 00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,880 the sun making it look like the sun 1063 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:15,920 moves 1064 00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,920 but the moon is going around the earth 1065 00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:20,160 and mercury and venus and mars and 1066 00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:21,920 jupiter and saturn and uranus neptune 1067 00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:25,280 and pluto and 200 000 other things that 1068 00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:28,559 nasa tracks are all going around the sun 1069 00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,079 and they all contribute to the 1070 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:32,720 complexity that we are and that's why 1071 00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,960 you can have a libra that seems more 1072 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,680 like a scorpio than a libra because it's 1073 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:39,839 depends on where all these other planets 1074 00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:42,880 are but the archetypes hold true 1075 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,359 now uh somebody once said to me and i 1076 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,160 don't even know if this is right so 1077 00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,559 but somebody said jimmy you're a libra 1078 00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:53,359 with the leo rising 1079 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:54,079 and 1080 00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,960 does what does it mean 1081 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,359 yeah it does and part of the thing about 1082 00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:03,680 astrology it's almost like computer 1083 00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:06,319 programming you know in as much as 1084 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:08,480 is that there are there are a lot of 1085 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,839 programmers 1086 00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,160 who don't ever want anyone who's not a 1087 00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:15,359 programmer to learn the language 1088 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,640 because 1089 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,640 there's something about the power that 1090 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,200 you have when you can wield 1091 00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,119 a language to make stuff happen on a 1092 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:25,280 computer and i think the same is 1093 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,480 sometimes true with astrology that there 1094 00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,720 are a lot of astrologers who want to 1095 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,200 tell you what they know 1096 00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,440 but they don't want to tell you 1097 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,520 how you can know the same thing on your 1098 00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,280 own without having to be bothered to 1099 00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,599 call the astrologer every day 1100 00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:43,920 and we have jargon 1101 00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:47,280 that that comes into the picture that 1102 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:50,000 separates people from what they could 1103 00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:50,880 know 1104 00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:55,280 because what the hell is a rising sign 1105 00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,160 an ascendant what's a trine or a sextile 1106 00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,480 all this stuff is just meaningless to me 1107 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,640 i need to go find my astrologer i can't 1108 00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,800 i can't figure any of this out a rising 1109 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:06,559 sign is really simple 1110 00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:09,760 the sun doesn't ever rise 1111 00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,119 the earth spins it into view yes yes yes 1112 00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,200 but we call it a sunrise 1113 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,880 bucky fuller said that we should call it 1114 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:18,960 a sunsite and at nighttime we should 1115 00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,440 call it a sun clips because language 1116 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:24,000 itself is misleading that's right 1117 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,200 but 1118 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,079 every day the sun rises 1119 00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,200 every day the moon rises every day 1120 00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,160 mercury rises every day venus rises 1121 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,880 every day every planet rises 1122 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,480 we don't see them 1123 00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,280 like we see the sunrise every day if 1124 00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:43,440 it's a full moon we might catch the full 1125 00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,000 moon rising but other than that we it's 1126 00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:52,230 the rising sign 1127 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,520 is the sign that is on the eastern 1128 00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:57,839 horizon 1129 00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:00,559 at any given moment so if you are a 1130 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,359 libra and if you were born at sun rise 1131 00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,240 you would be a libra with libra rising 1132 00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:11,520 because the planets live in signs 1133 00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:15,760 however if you are in fact a leo rising 1134 00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,200 leo comes before libra which would lead 1135 00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:21,359 me to think that you were born after 1136 00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:24,559 midnight but before dawn 1137 00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:25,599 because 1138 00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,040 signs and 24 hours in a day 1139 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:35,440 and then after leo rose for a couple of 1140 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:37,599 hours and this varies by signed by time 1141 00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:41,040 of year um but after leo rises then 1142 00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:44,799 virgo rises and then libra rises so if 1143 00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,559 you're a libra with the leo rising 1144 00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:50,640 chances are you were born 1145 00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,359 2 a.m or 3 a.m or something like that 1146 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,359 approximately you're freaking me out 1147 00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:57,440 right now but uh sorry again i said 1148 00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:03,030 that's how simple it is right right 1149 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,319 right right 1150 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,960 now what what would uh just in my 1151 00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,880 instance this is for the audience uh 1152 00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:10,160 trying to understand 1153 00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,680 what would 1154 00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,960 uh 1155 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,799 how would that influence me 1156 00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:17,040 and change me from being you know a peer 1157 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:21,440 libra with a libra arising sure so um 1158 00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:22,400 every 1159 00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:25,599 point in astrology whether they're real 1160 00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:28,240 points or calculated points like an 1161 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:31,680 ascendant is a calculated point um it's 1162 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,640 based upon great circles and where the 1163 00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:36,720 ecliptic where the planets going around 1164 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:40,559 the earth intersect the horizon of the 1165 00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:44,400 earth and and so on um 1166 00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:47,920 where each no each planet and each point 1167 00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,040 carries what jung called an archetype 1168 00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,440 it's actually a greek word and it's 1169 00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,280 really like a symbol set of 1170 00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:56,799 characteristics 1171 00:56:04,549 --> 00:55:59,839 that we see in myths they're symbols so 1172 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:04,559 that if you um see for example um 1173 00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,000 a picture you know of of of a magician 1174 00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:09,760 in the tarot deck 1175 00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,960 um 1176 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:13,119 that a magician will bring something to 1177 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:15,920 mind because it has an archetype of what 1178 00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:18,799 that means that is just a complex 1179 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:22,319 combination of of of images of myths of 1180 00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,359 symbols 1181 00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:25,520 and so the sun 1182 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,640 sign 1183 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,520 is kind of what fuels your furnace 1184 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:31,599 it's the light at the center so if 1185 00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:35,040 you're a libra it means that your being 1186 00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,119 is lit up 1187 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:39,599 from that libra archetype 1188 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,319 um and in just a sentence or two we 1189 00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,079 could say that libras are about 1190 00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,000 relationships because it has to do with 1191 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:48,400 the scales and putting things into 1192 00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:51,280 balance does that mean that every libra 1193 00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,359 you know is is well balanced and in 1194 00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:54,799 harmony 1195 00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,599 no 1196 00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:57,599 because it means it's about trying to 1197 00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:58,480 find 1198 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,440 that relationship of self to other me to 1199 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:03,520 you um 1200 00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,760 as as a um radio host that's the libra 1201 00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,559 in you that acts as the fulcrum point 1202 00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,200 between your guest and the audience that 1203 00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,680 become that's a libran kind of a thing 1204 00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:17,359 does that mean that every libra is a 1205 00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,520 radio host no but they may be a 1206 00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:22,000 psychologist or a counselor or a 1207 00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,079 diplomat or or a soldier because even a 1208 00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:27,839 general is trying to figure out that 1209 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,000 relationship between my army and your 1210 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:32,640 army so to speak so the archetypes can 1211 00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,760 be very complex but the sun is is 1212 00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:37,920 basically who you are how you're how 1213 00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:40,880 you're how your furnace is fueled 1214 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:43,520 now hang on one okay one quick second 1215 00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,720 the moon 1216 00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:46,880 in a chart is not who we are it's how we 1217 00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:49,599 respond it's what we feel in our gut 1218 00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,400 and the ascendant is how we seem to 1219 00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,960 appear to other people so if you're a 1220 00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:56,559 leo rising 1221 00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:59,920 you you appear to other people more like 1222 00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,200 a leo 1223 00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:03,520 than a libra so people might think 1224 00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,040 you're more about being on stage leo's 1225 00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,160 are are the presenters it's the it's the 1226 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:12,559 presenters it's the person who's giving 1227 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:15,200 the toastmaster speech at the beginning 1228 00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:16,000 um 1229 00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:17,359 leo's 1230 00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,359 are dramatic leos are self-expressive 1231 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,680 leos can't help themselves they have to 1232 00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,079 express from the inside out 1233 00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:28,880 now does that mean you're a leo no it 1234 00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:30,799 means that the way you interact with the 1235 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,119 outer world you interface with the outer 1236 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:35,520 world as a leo but the fact of the 1237 00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,200 matter is you're just seeking balance 1238 00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:40,319 your 1239 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,119 orate and put this into something that i 1240 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,440 can understand along with this audience 1241 00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,280 that's truly a gift 1242 00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:51,359 when did you i've just got two minutes 1243 00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,359 before the break but i have to ask 1244 00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,920 uh when did you figure out that you 1245 00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:57,839 wanted to teach 1246 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:00,640 and to give this gift back 1247 00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,200 well i have to say like many astrologers 1248 00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,960 i feel like i never learned it i feel 1249 00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,960 like i remembered it it's for some 1250 00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,480 people it's like a calling it's just 1251 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,400 like it's like picking up a musical 1252 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,400 instrument and not having been taught 1253 00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:14,160 and go oh i can make this sound the way 1254 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,440 i hear 1255 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,640 um 1256 00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,280 but it was early on in my in my early 1257 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,359 20s when i realized that even though i 1258 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,520 was still learning it i was really good 1259 00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,200 at explaining what it was that i was 1260 00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,480 learning because 1261 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:28,319 people make things so much more 1262 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:30,880 complicated than they are and then you 1263 00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,240 add in the fact that most or many i want 1264 00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,960 to say most astrologers don't really 1265 00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:38,480 understand 1266 00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:41,359 the social cultural historic 1267 00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:45,119 grounding that astrology has and so they 1268 00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,720 so they sound 1269 00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:47,520 woo 1270 00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:50,400 or more out there than astrology really 1271 00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:53,680 is astrology is really a central core to 1272 00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:57,040 the development of the intellect from 1273 01:00:02,710 --> 00:59:59,280 history uh the beginnings of history 1274 01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,720 onward is it dangerous again just a 1275 01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:03,920 quick question 1276 01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:07,040 is it dangerous uh 1277 01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,480 for people to base their life around 1278 01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:13,040 astrology 1279 01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,400 um let me answer that by asking you um 1280 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,440 is it is it dangerous to base your life 1281 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:22,240 um around looking at a map of where you 1282 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,200 live 1283 01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,280 yeah it's a great idea and the answer is 1284 01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,680 it sure as hell could be yes it depends 1285 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,760 on where you think you're going sure 1286 01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:31,040 sure sure 1287 01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:32,000 uh 1288 01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:33,839 astrology's just a map 1289 01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:35,920 and it's how you interpret it and there 1290 01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,960 are many people who already know how to 1291 01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:40,559 interpret it before they even know what 1292 01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,599 the damn map is right and those people 1293 01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,839 i think it is dangerous because 1294 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,599 astrology is 1295 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:49,920 just and i'm going to use the word just 1296 01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:52,799 it's just a map i mean i've devoted my 1297 01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,640 life largely to astrology i have 1298 01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:56,720 certainly other areas of interest in my 1299 01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,440 life but the fact of the matter is it's 1300 01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:01,599 not the only way to get to where you're 1301 01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,559 going 1302 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,160 you can you can you can get to where 1303 01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:06,799 you're going without a gps yes yeah and 1304 01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:08,720 you can choose a different different 1305 01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:10,640 road right you know the person who's 1306 01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,280 driving without a gps may have a much 1307 01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,040 richer experience because they're 1308 01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,280 discovering it rather than listening to 1309 01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,040 some lady in a box telling them when to 1310 01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:21,680 make rights and left yeah sure sure sure 1311 01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,240 um i have a friend uh serena wright 1312 01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,559 taylor uh great astrologers and an 1313 01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:28,079 amazing friend 1314 01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:29,119 and 1315 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:32,960 there has been a few times where she has 1316 01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:33,839 uh 1317 01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,000 had a conversation with me about you 1318 01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:38,720 know the week the month ahead and and 1319 01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:40,960 just things to consider 1320 01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:43,200 and i'm listening to serena and she 1321 01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,720 doesn't know anything about my life or 1322 01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,319 my personal life or what's going on in 1323 01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:48,000 my head or things that are going on in 1324 01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,200 my daily 1325 01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,599 but it would 1326 01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:53,520 kind of freak me out 1327 01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:56,720 and and now did i alter 1328 01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:57,839 no 1329 01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:01,599 but certainly being aware 1330 01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:03,680 is is pretty cool 1331 01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:05,839 and and that's the thing that i uh 1332 01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:08,559 respect so much about us astrology is 1333 01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,640 just to respect and just to be aware 1334 01:02:14,789 --> 01:02:12,720 that's all it's really simple let's take 1335 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:14,799 our break right here this is fade to 1336 01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:17,520 black our guest night rick levine been 1337 01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,599 waiting for this show everybody so stay 1338 01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,720 right there 1339 01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:22,799 uh when we come back i want to talk a 1340 01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:24,400 little bit about the history of 1341 01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,599 astrology 1342 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,920 and some of the presentations that rick 1343 01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,760 is also going to be doing out at the 1344 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:31,520 conscious life expo 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01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,710 hey i'm adrian grenier and i'm ari gold 1432 01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,400 we're the honey brothers 1433 01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,640 and you're listening to jimmy church a 1434 01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:58,160 revolution 1435 01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:59,839 this is jimmy church of fade to black 1436 01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:01,839 and you can become an official fate or 1437 01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:04,160 not by just going to our membership 1438 01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,470 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1439 01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:12,799 conscious life expo and you're listening 1440 01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,119 to fade to black with jimmy church who 1441 01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:17,520 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1442 01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:21,119 astrological chart since 1963. true 1443 01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,960 story 1444 01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,640 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1445 01:07:28,220 --> 01:07:26,240 report and you're listening to jimmy 1446 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:28,230 church on fade to black 1447 01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:48,470 [Music] 1448 01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:50,240 welcome back fade to black i am your 1449 01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:51,920 host jimmy church 1450 01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:53,599 tonight rick levine is with us for the 1451 01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:55,119 verse i'm very excited about the show 1452 01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:56,400 i've been looking forward to this for a 1453 01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:58,799 long time been following rick 1454 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,119 i've been in los angeles for a long time 1455 01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:03,200 i know the name rick levine 1456 01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,960 very excited about our conversation 1457 01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:07,119 tonight rick and uh 1458 01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:10,880 a couple of things before we get started 1459 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,720 uh you're going to be at the conscious 1460 01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:14,319 life expo i'm going to be able to break 1461 01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,159 bread with you and hang out with you 1462 01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,759 next weekend i can't believe it it's 1463 01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:19,679 coming up really quick 1464 01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:21,839 and you're doing 1465 01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:24,000 a lot of education out there and some of 1466 01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:25,520 you say next weekend it's actually the 1467 01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:27,520 weekend after next year it's february 1468 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:30,640 4th through 4th today is the 1469 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,400 25th so it's in nine days yeah yeah nine 1470 01:08:38,309 --> 01:08:36,480 days now you're the astrologer you 1471 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,319 better know what you're doing in nine 1472 01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:39,600 days 1473 01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,159 um is is this um i want to start with uh 1474 01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,719 the basics tonight in our journey 1475 01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,960 and i want to talk about the zodiac and 1476 01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,640 and get this out of the way and so we 1477 01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:52,400 can better understand it 1478 01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:56,560 and in a historical context for me 1479 01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:00,640 when i go back to uh dendera in egypt 1480 01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:03,920 and that zodiac on the ceiling there in 1481 01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:07,679 the temple that's uh you know 4 500 1482 01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:10,880 years old i mean that's crazy town to me 1483 01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,239 and if we go back from that and that's 1484 01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:17,279 looks pretty modern to my eyes but if we 1485 01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,640 go back another 7 000 years before that 1486 01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,679 um 1487 01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:24,400 to go back lee tepe there is a pillar at 1488 01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:27,520 gobekli tepe that was carved 10 1489 01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:30,159 500 bc 12 000 years ago 1490 01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:32,839 with the zodiac signs on it 1491 01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:35,839 and that is 1492 01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:38,000 uh it's impressive but it 1493 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,679 it raises more questions than it answers 1494 01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:43,120 so 1495 01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,839 what is the zodiac and then the next 1496 01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:48,480 question will be which version do you 1497 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:50,799 use so what's a zodiac 1498 01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,679 well first of all i'd like to say that 1499 01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,679 it raises more questions than it answers 1500 01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,600 for me too okay fair enough and we're 1501 01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:59,840 not going to answer those questions i 1502 01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:02,159 mean we could we can ask them and we can 1503 01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:03,600 talk about them 1504 01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:04,400 but 1505 01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,560 like many things it seems as we go back 1506 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,040 further in time 1507 01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:11,520 modern ideas return 1508 01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:14,159 in different forms way before we think 1509 01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,360 they should 1510 01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:17,199 and whether 1511 01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,000 first of all the egyptians for example 1512 01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:22,480 certainly had their cosmology and their 1513 01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:25,280 astrology and it's quite different than 1514 01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:28,560 modern astrology and when i say modern 1515 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:32,719 astrology i mean what's often called um 1516 01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:36,000 psychological spiritual astrology and 1517 01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,600 there's another word i'm going to throw 1518 01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:39,280 in here and we can define that in a 1519 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:42,159 moment and that is tropical 1520 01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,520 and the word tropical actually comes 1521 01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:48,159 actually what we call the tropics are 1522 01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:49,520 based upon 1523 01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,320 mappings of how the sun 1524 01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:54,640 seems to come north in the summer and 1525 01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,280 south in the winter and it reaches the 1526 01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:00,159 tropic of capricorn or the tropic of 1527 01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:03,760 cancer on either extremes of its two 1528 01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:06,320 solstices from summer to winter 1529 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:09,440 and tropical astrology that we practice 1530 01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:10,800 in the west 1531 01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:14,000 is really seasonal astrology 1532 01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:17,520 it's and this surprises a lot of people 1533 01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,880 because 1534 01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:21,600 it's not constellational it uses the 1535 01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:22,880 zodiac 1536 01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:25,120 but uh once every two or three years 1537 01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:28,800 some nasa scientist or some uh astronomy 1538 01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,159 you know um educated astronomer says 1539 01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,800 your sign has changed astrology is wrong 1540 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:37,040 everyone has it wrong if you thought you 1541 01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,040 were a libra you're wrong you're now a 1542 01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:41,840 virgo well 1543 01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:44,480 this is basically ignorant people 1544 01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:46,239 thinking they know something that they 1545 01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:47,120 don't 1546 01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:49,120 but the problem is 1547 01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:52,560 that because of the wobble of the earth 1548 01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,640 something called the precession or the 1549 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:57,040 moving backward of the equinox 1550 01:12:02,709 --> 01:11:59,840 the because the earth wobbles backwards 1551 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:02,719 if you spin a top as it spins in one 1552 01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,520 direction as it begins to slow down it 1553 01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,520 begins to wobble backwards to the 1554 01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:09,600 direction of its spin until it falls 1555 01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,480 over 1556 01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:12,560 well the earth wobbles backwards once 1557 01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:16,239 every 26 thousand years approximately 1558 01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:19,199 and that wobble means 1559 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,480 that on the first day of spring 1560 01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,719 which we can measure the egyptians knew 1561 01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:26,560 how to calculate it the greeks knew how 1562 01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:30,080 to calculate it on the spring equinox 1563 01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:32,000 that the 1564 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:33,199 the the 1565 01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,000 star that was last visible before the 1566 01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,000 sun rose which is the way they could 1567 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,000 tell what time of year it was because 1568 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,159 from earth's point of view if the sun 1569 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:44,560 moves all the way around the zodiac in a 1570 01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,320 year then i'll come back and define 1571 01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,800 zodiac in just a moment 1572 01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:51,600 that means that if we see what's what 1573 01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,440 star is in the sky just before sunrise 1574 01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,360 we can kind of tell where we are in the 1575 01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,120 big picture of things 1576 01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,120 the problem is 1577 01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:03,440 that there is a slippage 1578 01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,840 from the star that's on the eastern 1579 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,120 horizon 1580 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,280 at sunrise 1581 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:10,960 one degree 1582 01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,040 every 72 years which makes this 26 000 1583 01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:17,040 year cycle right 1584 01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:20,640 and because of that when you say you're 1585 01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,920 a libra 1586 01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:24,320 people want to say and i would actually 1587 01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:27,199 want to say that means that the 1588 01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:28,159 sun 1589 01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:30,400 was in the sign of libra when you were 1590 01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,199 born from earth's point of view but it's 1591 01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,320 not the constellation of libra 1592 01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:39,280 because the sign that we use in modern 1593 01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:42,480 astrology in the zodiac is based upon 1594 01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:46,320 our seasons because the seasons slip 1595 01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:49,560 from the actual location of the stars 1596 01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:52,560 172nd of a degree every year which 1597 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:54,640 doesn't seem like much but if you're 1598 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:57,520 talking 10 or 15 000 years that's all of 1599 01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,400 a sudden a half a cycle or more of the 1600 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,640 entire zodiac so 1601 01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,719 the zodiac is this 1602 01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:07,280 the zodiac is a division of a circle by 1603 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:08,960 12 1604 01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:14,229 that's what the zodiac is now people say 1605 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:18,040 the zodiac are the names of the 12 1606 01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:22,000 constellations that form the ecliptic 1607 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:23,679 and the ecliptic 1608 01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,400 is the plane think of a frisbee and 1609 01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:28,560 where in the center of the frisbee 1610 01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:31,760 and from our perspective the sun and all 1611 01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,040 the planets move around that same plane 1612 01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,120 they might go a little bit north and a 1613 01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:38,960 little bit south of it but for all 1614 01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:41,360 practical purposes the entire solar 1615 01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:44,080 system the sun mercury venus mars 1616 01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,080 jupiter saturn all the planets are 1617 01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:48,239 roughly on the same plane and that's 1618 01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:50,800 called the ecliptic which means when we 1619 01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:53,040 look at the sky at night 1620 01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:55,120 and we can see the planets and remember 1621 01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:59,360 planet is just a greek word planeta 1622 01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,920 from the greek which means a star that 1623 01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,199 wanders 1624 01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:04,800 so to the ancients there was no 1625 01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:07,280 difference between the constellations of 1626 01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:08,800 the fixed stars 1627 01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,800 and the planets except the planets were 1628 01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:12,719 wanderers 1629 01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,920 the planets wander but they wander along 1630 01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,760 what we sometimes call the celestial 1631 01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:20,719 highway the zodiac the ecliptic 1632 01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,320 and so the 12 constellations 1633 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,880 that the ancients named up there to 1634 01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:28,400 correspond 1635 01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:32,080 with the 12 months of the year to 1636 01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:35,840 correspond with the seasons even those 1637 01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:37,120 12 1638 01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,719 signs were originally constellational 1639 01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,400 they were constellations but the 1640 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,480 constellations don't exist up there we 1641 01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,400 make that up 1642 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:48,719 it's you know there are not 12 1643 01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:51,280 constellations in the sky there are 12 1644 01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,320 constellations in our minds 1645 01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,040 and and why 12 is very important i'll 1646 01:16:01,430 --> 01:15:59,120 cycle back to that in just a moment but 1647 01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:01,440 the fact of the matter is 1648 01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:02,239 that 1649 01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:04,640 the when we see a constellation like 1650 01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,239 libra or cancer or sagittarius the stars 1651 01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,560 that are in that constellation 1652 01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:12,480 look like they're close together but 1653 01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:15,040 they can be hundreds of light years 1654 01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,080 apart 1655 01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,719 they just i mean one star can be 20 1656 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,640 light years from us and the other 1657 01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:22,480 another one in the same direction can be 1658 01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:25,280 much brighter but can be 70 light years 1659 01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:27,440 from us they're not close together 1660 01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:29,840 they're just a visual orientation that 1661 01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:31,679 we have that makes them look like a 1662 01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:32,640 group 1663 01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:36,400 and so the ancients came up with 1664 01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:39,120 these meanings associated to these 1665 01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,480 symbols to correspond with the times of 1666 01:16:46,830 --> 01:16:45,360 the year for example aries being the 1667 01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,840 first sign of the 1668 01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,280 zodiac aries 1669 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:51,920 is kind of head forward it's ram it's 1670 01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,159 moving into new places and all the 1671 01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:56,880 ancient traditions had you know uh march 1672 01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,800 21st or right around there was the new 1673 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,800 year that was the beginning of it all 1674 01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,280 that was the first burst of spring 1675 01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,600 and then in taurus the bull 1676 01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:07,760 the the energy that was first moving 1677 01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,840 forward again thinking of the horns of 1678 01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,400 the ram budding ahead but in the bowl it 1679 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:14,880 becomes more solid and in the northern 1680 01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,400 hemisphere growth begins to get twigs 1681 01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,400 begins to get woody begins to get 1682 01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:22,800 substance and taurus is the sign of 1683 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:25,520 substance and you can follow around each 1684 01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:28,000 of the signs all the way through the the 1685 01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,000 12 signs and see how this cycle becomes 1686 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,560 a cycle of meaning that the ancients 1687 01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:36,800 tagged onto the idea of cycles in 1688 01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:39,920 general so coming full swing a zodiac is 1689 01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,920 simply a cycle divided into 12. y12 12 1690 01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:45,840 is the coolest number there is out 1691 01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,159 there because you can divide it by in 1692 01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,640 half you can divide it in half again 1693 01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,040 which a quarter quarter when you look at 1694 01:17:58,790 --> 01:17:55,840 a clock all our time keeping is done 1695 01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,800 like the zodiac all time keeping systems 1696 01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:00,960 are done base 12 meaning you count from 1697 01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:03,199 1 to 12 and then you start again 1698 01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:05,280 and 12 is great because you can divide 1699 01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,560 it by 2 3 and 4. 1700 01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:10,159 and there's no other number that's so 1701 01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:12,400 versatile to be able to divide up like 1702 01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:15,440 that and therefore with the zodiac we 1703 01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,239 can very quickly divide it in half or by 1704 01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:20,960 quarters or by thirds and we can come up 1705 01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,400 with all these um geometric meanings 1706 01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,040 based upon when we divide a circle by by 1707 01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:30,000 thirds we end up with a triangle and 1708 01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:32,719 those triangles connect the signs of the 1709 01:18:38,830 --> 01:18:36,000 same element elements in astrology come 1710 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:38,840 from the greek concept fire earth air 1711 01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:42,320 water this in fact was the absolute 1712 01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:45,760 basis of jung's psychology he actually 1713 01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,640 never called it jung psychology like 1714 01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:50,480 jesus never called his teachings 1715 01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:53,760 christianity you know or buddha buddhism 1716 01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:56,800 he he called what he did analytical 1717 01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,840 psychology or the psychology of four 1718 01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,400 types what were the four types 1719 01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:04,560 thinking feeling intuiting and and 1720 01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:07,520 perception and sensing thinking feeling 1721 01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:10,080 intuiting and sensing and those four 1722 01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,600 types corresponded to thinking air 1723 01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:15,840 intuiting fire fire doesn't think about 1724 01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,159 what it does next it's just burns 1725 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:19,679 um 1726 01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,719 water uh emotions water 1727 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:24,960 and fire earth air water i skip one oh 1728 01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:27,840 and earth which is sensation and and 1729 01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:31,360 jung got the basis of his psychology 1730 01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:34,239 because he noted that people tended to 1731 01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:35,760 be 1732 01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:38,719 some more thinkers some more feelers 1733 01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,000 some more intuitive some seem to be more 1734 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:45,679 leaning on two of them than than one 1735 01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,480 some people lacking in one of the four 1736 01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:50,880 and it's basically the basis of 1737 01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:54,719 astrology is not the signs the signs are 1738 01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:57,360 derived from the four elements via earth 1739 01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,159 air water and you go around the 12 signs 1740 01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:02,640 of the zodiac and you go fire earth air 1741 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:04,880 water aries taurus gemini cancer and 1742 01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:07,760 then you go fire earth air water again 1743 01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:11,360 and and from there you go leo fire 1744 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,880 virgo earth libra air scorpio water and 1745 01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,280 then you go fire earth air water again 1746 01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,360 and so it's the same pattern and it's 1747 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,679 the geometry of how all the stuff fits 1748 01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,320 together that's absolutely magical but 1749 01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:25,840 when you go back 1750 01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:28,719 the divisions aren't always by 12. um in 1751 01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,880 fact the egyptians loved the division by 1752 01:20:36,310 --> 01:20:32,719 36. 1753 01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:36,320 the hindus uh do a division by 27 called 1754 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:40,790 um 1755 01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:44,400 i just lost the word not nakshatras i 1756 01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:46,000 couldn't think of the hindu word for a 1757 01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,800 minute 1758 01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:48,480 um and so there's different ways to 1759 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,199 divide up a cycle the important thing to 1760 01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:54,320 understand is that astrology is the 1761 01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:56,239 study of cycles 1762 01:21:02,709 --> 01:20:59,520 and the observation of the planets that 1763 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,719 wander around in their own cycles from 1764 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:05,280 earth's point of view the sun looks like 1765 01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,600 it takes one year to make one cycle it's 1766 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,199 really the earth moving but it looks 1767 01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:11,920 like the sun takes a year it takes the 1768 01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,040 moon how long to make a cycle a moon 1769 01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,800 because that's what a month is it's one 1770 01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:19,040 moon cycle give or take a little bit to 1771 01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:20,480 make it all fit 1772 01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:23,360 a mercury cycle is one is 88 days 1773 01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,440 roughly it's one quarter of a year a 1774 01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,320 season and the planets all correspond in 1775 01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,000 their own movements as you go out 1776 01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:32,880 farther and farther out past saturn that 1777 01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,000 takes nearly 30 years and and pluto 1778 01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:38,480 which makes four cycles a millennium it 1779 01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:41,679 takes about 250 years for pluto to make 1780 01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,639 one cycle around the sun 1781 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:47,120 and all of the complexity of all this 1782 01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:49,920 movement is what astrologers combine 1783 01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,400 into trying to understand 1784 01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:54,880 the time the meaning of time in any 1785 01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,639 given moment how is it possible uh 1786 01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:01,040 staying on all of this 1787 01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,320 how is it possible that the ancients 1788 01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,560 before telescopes certainly before 1789 01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:08,719 computers before telescopes 1790 01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:11,280 and more modern technology and science 1791 01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,520 which only really happened in the last 1792 01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,120 300 years 1793 01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,360 how is it possible that these cultures 1794 01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:19,600 knew about pre-session 1795 01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:22,719 you know one degree every 72 years i 1796 01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:24,639 don't know how those measurements were 1797 01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:26,639 accumulated three four five thousand 1798 01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:27,679 years ago 1799 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:29,440 and also 1800 01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:33,520 longer yeah that's right that's right um 1801 01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,440 and cross-culturally around the world 1802 01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:39,360 uh without communication 1803 01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,120 also had similar names for the 1804 01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:44,480 constellations and and in the seasons 1805 01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:47,120 how was it possible that this knowledge 1806 01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,840 uh was out there and shared 1807 01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:51,360 so long ago 1808 01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:56,709 well you know young did write a book 1809 01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:59,280 called uh young on ufos you know that 1810 01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,639 right 1811 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,719 but and i say that only partly 1812 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:04,880 tongue-in-cheek because when it comes to 1813 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:08,080 so many of these questions i i am 1814 01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:10,560 agnostic which really means without 1815 01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,239 knowing ag 1816 01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:14,239 without knowing right and 1817 01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,280 and 1818 01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:17,199 it's as plausible as a 1819 01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:17,920 a 1820 01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,920 kind of popped into its current form um 1821 01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:39,840 in the greek uh in the in the 1822 01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,639 hellenistic pre-hellenistic world um a 1823 01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:44,639 few centuries prior to the birth of 1824 01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:47,440 jesus that's when that's when the first 1825 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:50,159 charts of an individual were ever done 1826 01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:53,760 uh before that uh astrology was really 1827 01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:57,199 more about only for the pharaohs and it 1828 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:59,600 was about the soul's 1829 01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:00,880 migration 1830 01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:03,120 you know after death and through the you 1831 01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:05,040 know the the milky way it was more 1832 01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,719 galactic than it was solar systemic but 1833 01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:10,719 the greek period of time is where a lot 1834 01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:13,199 of this stuff comes together and it's 1835 01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:14,880 interesting because it comes together 1836 01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:19,280 rather rapidly now i've got a lot of uh 1837 01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:22,480 fans of yours um that are throwing some 1838 01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:24,239 questions at me and this one's really 1839 01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:27,199 interesting uh please ask rick why he 1840 01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:31,440 doesn't use the side real zodiac it's 1841 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:35,040 sidereal meaning of the stars sidereal 1842 01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,560 side side sederis or sidereal means star 1843 01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:40,080 in latin 1844 01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:41,360 and and 1845 01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:42,800 the um 1846 01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:45,520 vedic astrologers meaning the astrology 1847 01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:48,000 that is practiced in india right is 1848 01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:50,239 largely sidereal 1849 01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:52,639 the problem is that 1850 01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:53,679 um 1851 01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:56,480 is that neither of uh i wanted to say 1852 01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:58,239 both of them work but neither of them 1853 01:25:02,070 --> 01:24:59,360 work 1854 01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:02,080 einstein said very clearly and showed 1855 01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,239 demonstrated very clearly that 1856 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,239 everything in the universe moves 1857 01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:08,480 everything moves so when you're doing 1858 01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:11,120 anything you need a point of reference 1859 01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:12,880 whether that point of reference is 1860 01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,520 riding a photon at the speed of light 1861 01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,360 or whether it's being here on earth you 1862 01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:19,280 need a point of reference 1863 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,960 so the difference between sidereal or 1864 01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:25,280 star-based or constellational-based 1865 01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:26,719 astrology 1866 01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:31,679 is that 1867 01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:34,719 one is more based upon time and the 1868 01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:37,600 others more based upon space now time 1869 01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,000 and space are absolutely integrated 1870 01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,719 another einsteinian concept that the 1871 01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:45,840 faster you go the slower time gets you 1872 01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:49,040 know time and space are interrelated 1873 01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:52,639 the problem is that you can't get one to 1874 01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:54,639 fit the other they're two different 1875 01:26:00,149 --> 01:25:56,800 frames of references 1876 01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:00,159 why i use tropical meaning seasonal 1877 01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:03,280 astrology rather than sidereal is that 1878 01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:06,320 it seems more relevant to us here on 1879 01:26:10,229 --> 01:26:07,600 earth 1880 01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,239 where the seasons actually do change 1881 01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:13,199 where there is a difference between um 1882 01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:14,000 uh 1883 01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:17,120 you know january or february and in 1884 01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:19,440 august or september you know part of the 1885 01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:22,239 problem was exacerbated by the fact that 1886 01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:24,480 the church celebrated certain holidays 1887 01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:26,880 that were tied to seasons and it began 1888 01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:31,199 getting very weird in the 12 13 1400s 1889 01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:32,639 when easter 1890 01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:35,600 which is about the rebirth of spring the 1891 01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:38,159 resurrection but seasonally about the 1892 01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:39,760 rebirth of spring 1893 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,639 um 1894 01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:41,840 that 1895 01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:45,040 and in fact um even the 1896 01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,560 um catholic holidays like like um easter 1897 01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:50,800 are astrologically calculated easter 1898 01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:54,320 occurs on the first full moon after 1899 01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:57,360 the spring equinox 1900 01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:59,679 so on the first full moon the first 1901 01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,840 sunday after the first full moon after 1902 01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:03,760 the spring equinox the first day of 1903 01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:07,280 spring the problem was in the 13 1400s 1904 01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:08,880 because of that procession of the 1905 01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,679 equinox they were celebrating uh spring 1906 01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:13,520 and it felt like the middle of winter 1907 01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:16,159 because it had moved back a month 1908 01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:19,199 and so it so it was pope gregory who 1909 01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,719 said all right we're going to fix this 1910 01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:22,560 we're going to add 26 days to the 1911 01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,040 calendar and boom that's what he did 1912 01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:27,520 they added they padded the calendar with 1913 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,520 26 days so that the um that the slippage 1914 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:34,080 was made right so you're suggesting that 1915 01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:40,629 no i'm suggesting i'm suggesting that 1916 01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:42,880 pretty much all the catholic holidays 1917 01:27:47,669 --> 01:27:45,199 were pagan holidays until they were 1918 01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,679 rewritten and and co-opted but that's i 1919 01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:49,440 mean that's not saying anything in 1920 01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,000 detriment of catholicism that's the way 1921 01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,000 it's done yeah you know i mean you know 1922 01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:56,400 uh you know from halloween to christmas 1923 01:28:02,229 --> 01:27:59,679 to easter um you know all these holidays 1924 01:28:04,270 --> 01:28:02,239 were in fact um holidays that were 1925 01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:04,280 celebrated because of their 1926 01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:07,040 astrological significance whether it was 1927 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,199 a celebration of spring at beltane or 1928 01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:11,760 midsummer you know um you know or the 1929 01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:13,760 returning of the light you know around 1930 01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:16,080 llamas or yuletide and i mean these were 1931 01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:19,920 all originally um holidays that were 1932 01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:20,960 nature 1933 01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:24,400 and um until priests 1934 01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:28,480 got a hold of these um archetypes and um 1935 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,600 and use them for institutional power 1936 01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,320 and thus william blake said men forgot 1937 01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:37,520 that all gods reside in one's breast 1938 01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:39,760 one last question before the break 1939 01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:41,920 please ask rick 1940 01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:45,360 why there is a western style zodiac in 1941 01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:47,920 an eastern the eastern zodiac is a four 1942 01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:51,840 by four grid and behind the western by 1943 01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:57,189 so the behind the western by one sign is 1944 01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:58,960 that difference between tropical and 1945 01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:01,360 sidereal that i already addressed okay 1946 01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:02,159 one 1947 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:07,600 against the fixed stars up there and the 1948 01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,320 other is mapping the planets against the 1949 01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:12,239 first moment of spring 1950 01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:15,120 against the summer solstice the first 1951 01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,920 moment of of um autumn and the winter 1952 01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,560 solstice that becomes the north south 1953 01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:22,560 east west the cardinal points if you 1954 01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:25,280 will right of time on this planet but 1955 01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,040 the other question is more about what 1956 01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,679 the horoscope wheel looks like 1957 01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:32,000 and even in the west 1958 01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:34,639 we used square 1959 01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:37,520 horoscopes until maybe the 1960 01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:40,159 16th 17th century 1961 01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,000 the round horoscope is a modern um 1962 01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:46,400 addition to astrology it makes more 1963 01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:48,159 sense but it's really just a mapping 1964 01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,239 technique now with um 1965 01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:54,159 and please uh 1966 01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,960 uh go with my uh 1967 01:30:02,709 --> 01:29:59,760 uh naive aspect to this 1968 01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:02,719 with vedic astrology and 1969 01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:07,199 a vedic astrologer reads me my charts or 1970 01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:10,080 talks about the future 1971 01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:11,840 is there 1972 01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:15,040 similarities to the tropic to the 1973 01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:17,679 tropical version of it and is the 1974 01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:18,960 information 1975 01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,440 largely the same and accurate 1976 01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:23,360 it's a really good question it's a 1977 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:25,360 confusing question 1978 01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:28,880 i've had my chart done by by two very 1979 01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:31,600 very well known vedic astrologers and 1980 01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:33,760 the word vedic just comes from the vedas 1981 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,639 the vedas which are the hindu oral 1982 01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:38,560 religious tradition of creation like the 1983 01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:40,639 bible you know in the west it's that's 1984 01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:42,960 what vedic astrology is 1985 01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:43,920 um 1986 01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,719 but 1987 01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:46,560 um 1988 01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,800 i am in aries in vedic astrology i 1989 01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:50,639 become a pisces because they do move 1990 01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:52,960 back not a whole sign but almost a whole 1991 01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:54,080 sign 1992 01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,400 um everything in my chart is different 1993 01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:58,320 and yet the two readings that i had with 1994 01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:01,440 vedic astrologers were amazingly 1995 01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:04,719 accurate somehow the systems as long as 1996 01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,040 they're self-referential 1997 01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:08,960 which then goes back to that einstein 1998 01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,199 thing is in all moving systems you need 1999 01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:13,440 to pick a point of reference 2000 01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:15,440 there are some things that stay exactly 2001 01:31:18,229 --> 01:31:16,400 the same 2002 01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:18,239 regardless of whether we're doing 2003 01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:21,040 western or eastern western modern 2004 01:31:27,189 --> 01:31:24,480 psycho-spiritual tropical astrology or 2005 01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:27,199 vedic sidereal astrology some things 2006 01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:29,440 remain the same there's a new moon it's 2007 01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:31,920 a new moon in either in either system 2008 01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:34,080 it's just could be in different signs 2009 01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:37,440 the relationships between the planets 2010 01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:39,520 stay exactly the same 2011 01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:41,199 and it's my 2012 01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:44,560 personal belief from years of experience 2013 01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,040 that it is these relationships between 2014 01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:49,600 the planets the astrological word we use 2015 01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:52,000 to describe that as aspects these 2016 01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:54,080 aspects are really the meat and potatoes 2017 01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:56,719 of how astrology and why astrology works 2018 01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,719 absolutely fascinating let's take our 2019 01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:00,880 break right here this is fade to black 2020 01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:03,040 our guest tonight rick levine it is 2021 01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:06,320 astrology 101 for me all night long 2022 01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:09,520 i learn you learn more with rick after 2023 01:32:20,060 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2095 01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:51,990 you are listening to fate to black with 2096 01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:56,800 jimmy church on the game changer network 2097 01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:59,360 hi i'm reese evans you're listening to 2098 01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:02,239 jimmy church this is revolution the 2099 01:36:08,390 --> 01:36:05,040 revolution will not be televised the 2100 01:36:13,020 --> 01:36:08,400 revolution is on radio 2101 01:36:51,030 --> 01:36:42,150 [Music] 2102 01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:52,950 welcome back fade to black i'm here 2103 01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:54,480 jimmy church 2104 01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:55,760 you know what's really strange about 2105 01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:58,560 tonight uh rick is that 2106 01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:00,239 right now 2107 01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:02,480 i am live 2108 01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:04,960 in another interview 2109 01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:07,119 on monsters of rock radio that was taped 2110 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:09,199 last week and it's broadcasting live 2111 01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:11,760 right now i'm getting text hey man uh 2112 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:13,520 how are you doing two shows at the same 2113 01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:15,760 time 2114 01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:18,239 uh it's kind of weird and uh 2115 01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:19,119 so 2116 01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,080 that's the universe winking at us uh no 2117 01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:24,239 i am not uh doing two interviews at the 2118 01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:26,239 same time i am live here 2119 01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:29,280 with uh rick levine now okay rick 2120 01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:32,239 uh i almost want to but i'm not going to 2121 01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:33,840 but i almost want to stay on the 2122 01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:36,320 einstein aspect of this in the expansion 2123 01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:38,400 of the universe things are moving out 2124 01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:40,560 there how does that change astrology 2125 01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:42,400 does it change things because i can 2126 01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:44,719 spend a whole night uh just discussing 2127 01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:46,719 that topic and 2128 01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:49,280 yeah it's a fascinating aspect to this 2129 01:37:54,550 --> 01:37:52,320 but uh uh and maybe if we have time we 2130 01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:54,560 can come back to it but what i do want 2131 01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:57,520 to discuss is the 2132 01:38:03,270 --> 01:37:59,119 the flux 2133 01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:03,280 the changes that this planet um has 2134 01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:05,760 endured as an earth 2135 01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,159 over uh certainly the last two years the 2136 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:10,480 last three years last four years lots of 2137 01:38:13,830 --> 01:38:11,760 changes 2138 01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,840 uh that have gone on 2139 01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:15,119 um 2140 01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:18,480 was this expressed to you 2141 01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,440 uh through astrology and these these 2142 01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:23,760 tremendous changes this paradigm shift 2143 01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:25,679 that this planet is going through did 2144 01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:31,830 yes and so have 2145 01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:35,600 most astrologers it's been something 2146 01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:37,440 that we've been 2147 01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:40,320 talking about and discussing and doing 2148 01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:42,880 presentations on at astrology 2149 01:38:47,109 --> 01:38:46,000 conferences for a number of years 2150 01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:47,119 um 2151 01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:50,560 and uh but that doesn't mean that anyone 2152 01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,000 anyone knew exactly how the specific 2153 01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,239 events would unfold you know things 2154 01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,199 happen on on on two levels 2155 01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:01,440 one is the archetypal level of the 2156 01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:04,480 symbolic energy and the other is the 2157 01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,679 specificity that that the specific 2158 01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,840 events are and it seems that the 2159 01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:11,520 specific events 2160 01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:13,360 more often than not 2161 01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:16,080 correspond with the general energetic 2162 01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:19,040 ideas were but it's but it doesn't mean 2163 01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,320 that that one knows specifically what's 2164 01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,639 going to happen i mean every astrologer 2165 01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:26,800 on the planet uh well let me put it this 2166 01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:29,679 way the first time i wrote about january 2167 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:31,119 of 2020 2168 01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:34,480 was in october of 2001 2169 01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:36,000 and i did that 2170 01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:39,600 because in september of 2001 2171 01:39:44,189 --> 01:39:42,960 there was an alignment um that's roughly 2172 01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:44,199 in every 2173 01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:47,760 38-year alignment roughly it varies and 2174 01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:50,239 half of that 2175 01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:53,199 that the alignment is the alignment like 2176 01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:55,520 a new moon and then the full moon is 2177 01:40:01,830 --> 01:39:58,239 like halfway through the cycle well 2178 01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:01,840 uh in september of 2001 there was an 2179 01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:06,239 alignment of the planet saturn and pluto 2180 01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:07,119 and 2181 01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,679 astrologers were writing about what's 2182 01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:11,679 gonna happen in the fall we don't know 2183 01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:13,520 but something is you know this is this 2184 01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:16,159 is a cycle that's too mechanical you can 2185 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:18,800 look back all the way to the death of 2186 01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:20,800 jesus and see 2187 01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:21,760 um 2188 01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:23,679 or i should say the nailing of jesus to 2189 01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:26,480 the cross so i don't offend anyone right 2190 01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:28,639 um but um 2191 01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:33,040 but the fact is that um that in april of 2192 01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:34,639 2001 2193 01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:36,960 one of the astrology journals carried an 2194 01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:39,760 article by an astrologer that showed a 2195 01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:40,719 tall 2196 01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:43,440 glassine office building 2197 01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:46,000 on fire in the middle with a phoenix 2198 01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,400 coming out of it because phoenix is the 2199 01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:50,960 symbol of the planet pluto 2200 01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:53,600 and this and this alignment of saturn 2201 01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:54,719 and pluto 2202 01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:57,440 which occurred around the bombing of the 2203 01:41:03,910 --> 01:41:01,199 world trade tower was something that 2204 01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:03,920 i i mean took up astrology journals for 2205 01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:06,480 months and months and months afterwards 2206 01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:08,960 looking at it backwards in time and it 2207 01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,679 was in october the month after that that 2208 01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:13,760 i projected forward to the next time 2209 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,639 saturn and pluto would be aligned this 2210 01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:18,400 time like a new moon they would be 2211 01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:21,440 aligned at the same place in the sky and 2212 01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:23,920 that exact alignment was on january 12th 2213 01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:26,560 of 2020 which turned out to be the day 2214 01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,199 of the first reported mortality of covid 2215 01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:32,000 and the announcement of the genome now 2216 01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:33,840 um 2217 01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:36,320 did i predict the plague or the whatever 2218 01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:39,679 we want to call it the pandemic no but i 2219 01:41:45,430 --> 01:41:42,880 i like so many other astrologers know 2220 01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:45,440 the lineage of the this particular 2221 01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:48,239 slow-moving cycle that's not about how 2222 01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:49,520 astrology 2223 01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:52,639 impacts a libra versus a capricorn but 2224 01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,040 it's more about the unfolding of history 2225 01:41:59,910 --> 01:41:57,600 through time and this is a whole 2226 01:42:02,149 --> 01:41:59,920 newer study of astrology because until 2227 01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:02,159 you had the computer there was no way to 2228 01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:05,119 know where a planet was on march 11 15 2229 01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,320 22. 2230 01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,040 you know now i can sit at my desk and i 2231 01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:11,440 can say give me a listing of every time 2232 01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:14,560 saturn and pluto were either aligned or 2233 01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:16,960 opposite or 90 degrees from one to the 2234 01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:21,520 other um since um the year 300 a.d i can 2235 01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:24,239 hit the button and by the time i look up 2236 01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:27,119 i have the list in front of me 2237 01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:29,440 and so that's changed the name of the 2238 01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:31,920 game of this form of what's called 2239 01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:33,199 mundane 2240 01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:38,800 from the world um 2241 01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:41,360 and and and so from that standpoint yeah 2242 01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:43,520 every astrologer i know 2243 01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,159 knew that 2020 2021 2022 was a big 2244 01:42:52,669 --> 01:42:50,800 period of time but by the same token we 2245 01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:52,679 also knew that about 2246 01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:55,760 2012 to 2015 2247 01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:58,159 which was the ri the arab spring and the 2248 01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,280 legalization of of marijuana in so many 2249 01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:03,679 places in the legal legalization of gay 2250 01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:06,239 marriage and we knew in advance that 2251 01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:09,199 whatever was going to unfold in that 2252 01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:12,400 let's say 2020 2010 to 20 2253 01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:15,920 2010 to 2020 period of time that 2254 01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:17,600 we knew that what was going to happen in 2255 01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,400 that decade was directly connected to 2256 01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,320 what happened in the 60s because it was 2257 01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:24,800 part of the exact same cycle interesting 2258 01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:26,560 you think of the major issues that 2259 01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:29,520 unfolded you know around that 2012 to 2260 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:33,040 2015 period of time specifically and 2261 01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:34,960 they're the same issues that that were 2262 01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,760 on our plate not only in the 60s but you 2263 01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:39,840 can track these cycles back back back 2264 01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:42,400 and back and in fact there's a brand new 2265 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:45,199 documentary that's going to be released 2266 01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:48,400 on february 22nd i think and there will 2267 01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:52,159 be a screening of one of 10 episodes of 2268 01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:55,040 this at the conscious life expo at the 2269 01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:59,280 lax hilton um on saturday february 5th 2270 01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:01,679 and um and after the screening of and 2271 01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:04,800 this this documentary is a 10 hour 10 2272 01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:08,880 one hour segment about the history of 2273 01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:11,360 how this particular cycle is impacting 2274 01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,159 where we are culturally economically 2275 01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:16,800 politically individually you know in 2276 01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:19,360 with respect to history these days 2277 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:20,400 um 2278 01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:22,480 and after the free screening of the 2279 01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:24,719 first episode there'll be a panel 2280 01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:26,239 discussion that i'll be leading on 2281 01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:28,880 discussing some of these topics so it's 2282 01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:29,679 um 2283 01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:33,119 fascinating work and and yeah the last 2284 01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:34,400 few years 2285 01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:37,119 have been extraordinary looking back at 2286 01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:39,840 them but they were extraordinary looking 2287 01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:42,000 ahead toward them too not knowing what 2288 01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:43,760 was how they were going to play out how 2289 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,199 do you 2290 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:48,480 explain 2291 01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,400 and try to get this into words uh when 2292 01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,400 somebody comes at you 2293 01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:56,719 uh with these important questions about 2294 01:45:02,470 --> 01:44:59,520 the future and and what this last few 2295 01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,480 years meant because everybody everybody 2296 01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:04,960 on this planet was impacted by it and 2297 01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:07,199 they're emotionally stressed out and 2298 01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:10,000 they're coming to you 2299 01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:11,760 how do you deal with that and how do you 2300 01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:17,189 well 2301 01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:20,639 i think how i or any astrologer 2302 01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:23,840 deals with that changes over time and as 2303 01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,159 we deal with it individually i mean i 2304 01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:28,800 was impacted and have been and continue 2305 01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:29,760 to be 2306 01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:31,679 just like everyone else 2307 01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:32,800 um 2308 01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:35,600 but i don't feel like it's my job to 2309 01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,239 explain everything to everyone 2310 01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:40,480 although i can sometimes 2311 01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:43,679 pull out enough simple pieces 2312 01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:45,360 to 2313 01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:49,840 understand um one of the talks that i'll 2314 01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:52,239 be doing on the after conferences on 2315 01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,080 monday um is a um wtf you know where are 2316 01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:00,480 where are we what what is going on these 2317 01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:03,600 days right and um and in that i will 2318 01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,480 have 2319 01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:05,760 um 2320 01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:09,440 graphics to show and unfold 2321 01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:12,719 why these times are so extraordinary and 2322 01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,199 what we might have expected versus what 2323 01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:17,920 we got versus how we may look at this 2324 01:46:22,310 --> 01:46:20,639 period of time from 50 years to 100 2325 01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:22,320 years down the road 2326 01:46:25,910 --> 01:46:24,159 i mean because 2327 01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:25,920 you see if things are moving around in 2328 01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:29,440 cycles in circles cycle circles then 2329 01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:32,159 there is a repetition 2330 01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:34,960 there's never a time when every planet 2331 01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:37,520 is in exactly the same place as it was 2332 01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:39,280 because there's too many planets moving 2333 01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:42,639 in too many variations of of speeds and 2334 01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:44,400 and and so on 2335 01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:47,840 um however we can look at we can pick 2336 01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:50,239 out pairs of planets like the sun and 2337 01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:51,360 the moon 2338 01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:52,960 and we and we know 2339 01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:56,000 that ancients i mean as far back as we 2340 01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:57,119 can tell 2341 01:47:02,149 --> 01:46:58,639 were aware 2342 01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,159 of the sun moon cycle well it's visible 2343 01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,000 it's the new moon full moon and the 2344 01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:06,159 first quarter moon and what people don't 2345 01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,320 understand though is that astrology 2346 01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,800 takes a cycle and divides it in half and 2347 01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:12,960 divides it in half again because that's 2348 01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:16,000 where the action is in physics at the 90 2349 01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:18,560 degree angles at the points of maximum 2350 01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,199 interference of wave patterns 2351 01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:23,920 and so you take the cycle of the moon 2352 01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,480 going around the earth and it takes one 2353 01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:27,679 moon 2354 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:34,880 cycle right right and half of that is a 2355 01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,600 fortnight which we moderners don't use 2356 01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:39,920 much but that was that used to be as 2357 01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:42,560 important a measurement as as a month 2358 01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:44,960 because it was two weeks it was half of 2359 01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:48,560 a moon cycle and half of a fortnight is 2360 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:51,520 a week which we still use so a week is 2361 01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:53,760 simply a half of a half of a sun moon 2362 01:47:59,910 --> 01:47:57,199 cycle now we know behaviorally that 2363 01:48:02,629 --> 01:47:59,920 there are differences in behavior we can 2364 01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:02,639 measure them statistically and have 2365 01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:04,800 that when a full moon 2366 01:48:10,229 --> 01:48:07,840 falls on a friday or saturday night 2367 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:10,239 that the emergency rooms and arrest 2368 01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:12,960 records their arrest numbers go up 2369 01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:15,920 emergency rooms are crowded with with 2370 01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:19,199 with with accidents and and crazy 2371 01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:21,520 seems to happen around a full moon right 2372 01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:24,000 whereas a new moon it seems like it's 2373 01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:26,159 the opposite end of the spectrum i know 2374 01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:29,199 emergency room doctors who just hate 2375 01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:32,320 getting um emergency room assignments 2376 01:48:37,109 --> 01:48:34,880 when a full moon happens to hit on a 2377 01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:37,119 weekend because it's like a wave on top 2378 01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,080 of a wave if a full moon hits on a on a 2379 01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:42,159 cold january night 2380 01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:43,600 maybe there are not a lot of people 2381 01:48:48,709 --> 01:48:46,480 going out but if it hits on a friday 2382 01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:48,719 night you know just after graduation 2383 01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,000 weekend 2384 01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:52,320 you know it's like a wave on a wave so 2385 01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:55,440 that kind of a wave form is a 30-day 2386 01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:57,679 wave i mean that happens regularly and 2387 01:49:02,390 --> 01:48:59,840 we know that there are differences in 2388 01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:02,400 behavior but then if you take a wave 2389 01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:03,520 form 2390 01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:06,800 like like like uranus and pluto that 2391 01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:10,719 line up every couple of centuries 2392 01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:12,800 they we don't see them unfold in our 2393 01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:13,599 life 2394 01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,480 but if you realize that the american and 2395 01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:19,440 french revolutionary wars occurred 2396 01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:22,880 around a uranus and pluto alignment 2397 01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:26,080 and that the 1960s was a uranus pluto 2398 01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:29,679 alignment as was this 2012 to 2015 2399 01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,560 really extended for the whole decade 2400 01:49:37,669 --> 01:49:35,040 then you begin to see that there are 2401 01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:37,679 patterns that kind of continually 2402 01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:40,719 resurface again and again and again 2403 01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:42,480 that you wouldn't notice unless you 2404 01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:44,800 notice you said a key word at the very 2405 01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:46,080 beginning 2406 01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:48,000 and i was going to wanted to interrupt 2407 01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:50,159 you and say something then 2408 01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,360 but i didn't 2409 01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:54,320 and the word that you used was awareness 2410 01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:56,480 and i what i wanted to say was the 2411 01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,440 buddhists amongst other people will tell 2412 01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:01,360 us that there's nothing that can be 2413 01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:04,880 changed except awareness 2414 01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,840 and that when we change our awareness we 2415 01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:09,520 change everything 2416 01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:11,840 now this isn't my idea although i 2417 01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:18,229 nin who said we don't see things as they 2418 01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:20,400 are we see things as we are 2419 01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:23,280 the great uh mystical poet william blake 2420 01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:25,840 said that our sense organs actually open 2421 01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:29,520 and close based upon different places in 2422 01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:31,599 in history marshall mcluhan the great 2423 01:50:35,589 --> 01:50:32,639 media 2424 01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,599 guru of the 60s 70s said the same thing 2425 01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:37,440 james joyce wrote an entire book 2426 01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:40,080 finnegan's wake about these this 2427 01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:42,960 movement of our sensory organs and so 2428 01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:46,400 what happens is that as our awareness 2429 01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:49,040 changes that gives us more 2430 01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:51,599 choices you know if you have a certain 2431 01:50:56,310 --> 01:50:54,239 set of beliefs if you believe that the 2432 01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:56,320 earth is flat and you can't go near the 2433 01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:58,880 edge you'll never go past that point 2434 01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:01,119 that you think is the edge but if you 2435 01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:03,920 then change your awareness and realize 2436 01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:06,239 that the earth may be a globe all of a 2437 01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,159 sudden you can go places you didn't go 2438 01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:10,800 before and so the key thing with 2439 01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:14,639 astrology is that it's a way in making 2440 01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:17,280 those things that were invisible those 2441 01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:19,520 patterns that we didn't realize were 2442 01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:21,840 patterns and as we begin to see them we 2443 01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:25,599 go holy crap and that's happening again 2444 01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:27,199 right now where 2445 01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:30,400 um for a few days we have we we have 2446 01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:34,000 right now currently mercury is at is 2447 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,320 retrograde and venus is at the tail end 2448 01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:38,800 of a retrograde the word retrograde is 2449 01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:40,480 another one of those great astrology 2450 01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,719 words that most people don't have a clue 2451 01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:44,239 as to what it means so it sounds like 2452 01:51:49,030 --> 01:51:47,040 mumbo jumbo what it means is that it 2453 01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:49,040 looks like the planet's going backwards 2454 01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:51,920 even though it's not now you've probably 2455 01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:53,840 been somewhere in a city where you're on 2456 01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:56,639 a rapid transit or a subway and you look 2457 01:52:00,629 --> 01:51:58,880 out the window of the car that you're in 2458 01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,639 and you're going past another train and 2459 01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:02,000 it looks like the train's going the 2460 01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,320 other way and then you realize that it's 2461 01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,239 going the same way you are but not quite 2462 01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:08,639 as fast you know that optical illusion 2463 01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:10,080 right it happens if you're at a red 2464 01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:10,960 light 2465 01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:12,560 and the driver takes his foot off the 2466 01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:15,040 gas and you just begin rolling forward 2467 01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:16,480 but it looks like the car next to you is 2468 01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:18,239 going backwards 2469 01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:20,000 planets go retrograde when they get 2470 01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:21,520 close to the earth and when we lose 2471 01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:24,719 perspective and when they do the the the 2472 01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:27,360 archetypal energy of that planet 2473 01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:28,840 heats up it 2474 01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:31,199 intensifies and so 2475 01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:34,159 there is something to the phenomenon of 2476 01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:36,960 mercury turning retrograde for about 2477 01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:40,239 three weeks about three times a year 2478 01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:41,760 and it's just 2479 01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:44,480 stuff begins to cook up faster than it 2480 01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:46,880 normally does and yet we don't seem to 2481 01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,280 be able to go forward as fast as we were 2482 01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:51,360 going because it looks like the planet's 2483 01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:52,800 going backwards 2484 01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,320 i don't want to go too far down that 2485 01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:56,320 rabbit hole i'm just making the point 2486 01:53:01,830 --> 01:52:59,280 that if we begin to look at mercury 2487 01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,840 retrogrades and be aware of when they're 2488 01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:04,080 retrograde we begin to see the patterns 2489 01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:05,760 in our lives and the lives of people 2490 01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:08,000 around us like oh my god how did i never 2491 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:09,760 notice that well you never noticed that 2492 01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:10,960 because you weren't looking for that 2493 01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:12,960 pattern now 2494 01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:15,520 it doesn't matter what walk of life or 2495 01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:18,000 what country uh 2496 01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:19,040 you're in 2497 01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:22,400 none of that matters correct but we have 2498 01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:23,760 seen 2499 01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:27,119 uh in the last uh few years 2500 01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:29,679 whether it's it's riots or 2501 01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:31,760 it's uh it's elections it's religion 2502 01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:35,520 it's weather it's hurricanes it's it's 2503 01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,040 of course you know we can mention the 2504 01:53:42,229 --> 01:53:38,880 pandemic but 2505 01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,239 and the headlines were as dramatic 2506 01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:44,560 as they could have possibly been no 2507 01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:47,520 matter who you are in what walk of life 2508 01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:50,080 you were affected and it all happened at 2509 01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:51,440 the same time 2510 01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:54,239 oh absolutely and and this kind of 2511 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:55,760 synchronicity 2512 01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:58,320 is very it's like one of the byproducts 2513 01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:00,719 of looking at these long-term cycles 2514 01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:03,760 here here's like just just a a quick um 2515 01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:05,679 i could do this for hours 2516 01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:09,199 but just like one quick thought um 2517 01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,320 so the 2518 01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:12,719 conjunction of saturn the planets of 2519 01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:15,119 limits and boundaries authority right 2520 01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:17,599 and pluto the planet of the underworld 2521 01:54:21,589 --> 01:54:19,280 that destroys boundaries that 2522 01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:21,599 deconstructs um 2523 01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:26,320 that the alignment of saturn and pluto 2524 01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:31,679 on january 20 on january 12th 2020 2525 01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:34,320 happened in the sign of capricorn which 2526 01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:37,119 is saturn's home sign every planet has a 2527 01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:38,480 home sign 2528 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:41,840 the last time that saturn and pluto 2529 01:54:46,390 --> 01:54:45,280 aligned in capricorn in saturn's own 2530 01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:46,400 sign 2531 01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:49,119 was in 1530 now i've forgotten the day 2532 01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:51,520 1531 i think it was 2533 01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:54,320 which was two months after martin luther 2534 01:54:59,430 --> 01:54:56,639 nailed the theses on the church in 2535 01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:59,440 wurttemberg germany that began what we 2536 01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:01,520 moderners call the protestant 2537 01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:04,400 reformation what they called 2538 01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:06,639 catch this it wasn't the protestant 2539 01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:10,080 reformation it was the protestant 2540 01:55:16,870 --> 01:55:14,550 that's what we're going through right 2541 01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:16,880 now it's the first time that that has 2542 01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:19,920 happened since then the changes and and 2543 01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:22,400 yet if you were alive and you went to 2544 01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:25,040 church where martin luther was the was 2545 01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:27,920 the um uh priest 2546 01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,040 you would have had no idea of the impact 2547 01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:33,840 that that little resistance he was doing 2548 01:55:38,550 --> 01:55:36,000 to the idea of paying priests to be 2549 01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:38,560 absolved of sin right you'd have no idea 2550 01:55:44,709 --> 01:55:41,840 how that would take down the throne 2551 01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:44,719 of rome and basically make the world a 2552 01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:47,760 different place it took 100 years or so 2553 01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:49,440 where at that same point when you're in 2554 01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:51,679 the middle of the event even if it seems 2555 01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:53,520 like it's a big event and this one does 2556 01:55:57,669 --> 01:55:55,440 for a lot of reasons there's still no 2557 01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:57,679 way of seeing the perspective that one 2558 01:56:02,709 --> 01:56:00,639 gains over time and yet astrologically 2559 01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:02,719 that's just one piece of a 2560 01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:04,880 trifecta or more of things that have 2561 01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:08,560 gone down from january of 2020 all the 2562 01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,119 way up through now actually let's 2563 01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:14,239 include election day of 2022. 2564 01:56:18,390 --> 01:56:16,960 certainly now uh in the time that we 2565 01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:18,400 have left and we'll continue the 2566 01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:20,480 conversation after the break 2567 01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:21,440 um 2568 01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:23,760 you know the million-dollar question 2569 01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:26,880 are we at the end of this cycle uh 2570 01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:29,119 are there rainbows ahead 2571 01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:32,239 you know what's 2022 looking like 2572 01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:33,599 because we're all getting pretty 2573 01:56:39,430 --> 01:56:36,719 exhausted yeah we are and and i think 2574 01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:39,440 that 2022 has some hope 2575 01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:41,679 um i think that it's the first i think 2576 01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,040 that that 2577 01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,280 even the months coming up 2578 01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:47,679 march april may i think we see some 2579 01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:50,080 breakthroughs in hope however 2580 01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:52,320 the stuff that we have gone through 2581 01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:53,199 is 2582 01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:56,400 way too large conceptually again think 2583 01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:59,760 martin luther in the 1530s i wish i had 2584 01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:02,719 my notes i think it was 1534 but uh 2585 01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:06,480 but don't depend on me for intelligence 2586 01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:09,199 okay i'll depend upon you for media 2587 01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:12,159 connection and not intelligence um but 2588 01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:18,950 that to think that if you were living 2589 01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,719 then by the time maybe a year later when 2590 01:57:27,109 --> 01:57:25,119 he had already defied the church and he 2591 01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:27,119 was excommunicated you might have 2592 01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:29,920 thought okay well that's done 2593 01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:32,000 not realizing 2594 01:57:39,030 --> 01:57:35,360 the the significance of um of what that 2595 01:57:41,270 --> 01:57:39,040 really you know really meant um and so 2596 01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:41,280 from that standpoint no we're not done 2597 01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,080 it's gonna take years for for this to 2598 01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:46,639 unfold um it's it's it's gonna it's 2599 01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:48,560 gonna definitely be 2600 01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:51,360 um you know be a while it's not going to 2601 01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:54,320 happen overnight although we are i would 2602 01:57:58,550 --> 01:57:56,480 say by 2023 2603 01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:58,560 we'll feel like some of this is behind 2604 01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:59,360 us 2605 01:58:03,109 --> 01:58:01,440 um i still think we got a bit of rock 2606 01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:03,119 and roll ahead of us 2607 01:58:07,750 --> 01:58:05,520 and and although i don't think we'll 2608 01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:07,760 have to go through what we went through 2609 01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:11,840 already to say that we're out of the um 2610 01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:13,840 out of the mud out of the whatever that 2611 01:58:21,350 --> 01:58:16,480 saying is uh we're we're not out of this 2612 01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:21,360 at all um it is absolutely uh more to 2613 01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,320 unfold more to follow and by the way it 2614 01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:26,239 was 1517 2615 01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:28,320 uh on halloween night that martin luther 2616 01:58:33,510 --> 01:58:31,440 posted the theses and it was in january 2617 01:58:36,629 --> 01:58:33,520 of 1518 that there was the exact saturn 2618 01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:36,639 pluto um conjunction and then uh and 2619 01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:39,920 this popped up 1535 2620 01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:41,760 was the other year 2621 01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:44,480 uh god's words boast on the church's 2622 01:58:48,149 --> 01:58:45,679 authority 2623 01:58:50,070 --> 01:58:48,159 uh that happened in 1535 so started in 2624 01:58:55,189 --> 01:58:50,080 1517 2625 01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,199 was the on halloween night was the night 2626 01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:57,199 that martin luther reached the point of 2627 01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:58,719 saying this 2628 01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:01,280 that the church has rotten that religion 2629 01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:04,159 is important that that that that but 2630 01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:07,040 that the church itself has deviated from 2631 01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:08,960 from its place and where you can pay 2632 01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:11,440 money to be absolved of sins there's 2633 01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:13,679 that's not right and he posted these 2634 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:15,679 these 95 truths 2635 01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:18,800 but my point here is simply that if you 2636 01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:21,119 were alive then you knew there was big 2637 01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:24,320 stuff going down but you'd have no idea 2638 01:59:28,709 --> 01:59:27,679 how big and part of the reason is 2639 01:59:30,470 --> 01:59:28,719 because 2640 01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:30,480 at that point in time 2641 01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:32,480 and even several hundred years later i 2642 01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,599 mean william blake and beethoven lived 2643 01:59:38,950 --> 01:59:37,280 at the same time 2644 01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:38,960 and they didn't know each other they 2645 01:59:43,270 --> 01:59:41,040 lived a few hundred miles apart 2646 01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:43,280 i mean in today's day and age they would 2647 01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:45,119 have been writing songs together or 2648 01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:47,440 something right right right and so and 2649 01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:49,920 so we we live in such a different world 2650 01:59:54,550 --> 01:59:51,840 astrologically 2651 01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:54,560 because when we get these major events 2652 01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:56,560 they're fed back to us through social 2653 02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:59,199 media through media in so many ways that 2654 02:00:03,109 --> 02:00:01,119 it becomes like going to a grateful dead 2655 02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:03,119 concert where there's this um 2656 02:00:07,510 --> 02:00:05,440 reverberation from the over amping and 2657 02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:07,520 the feedback loops and i actually have 2658 02:00:11,790 --> 02:00:09,679 coined a word called cosmic feedback 2659 02:00:14,709 --> 02:00:11,800 loops that i think can be tracked 2660 02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:14,719 astrologically because we're in this 2661 02:00:19,589 --> 02:00:17,760 place of using our technology to feed 2662 02:00:22,229 --> 02:00:19,599 back the events again and again and 2663 02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:22,239 again every time a point or planet is 2664 02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:23,760 stimulated while we're going through 2665 02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:26,080 these big things all of a sudden all the 2666 02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:28,159 videotapes come out from last year last 2667 02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:30,560 month a year ago whatever and that 2668 02:00:34,709 --> 02:00:32,960 didn't used to be possible 2669 02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:34,719 again at the time of martin luther you 2670 02:00:38,229 --> 02:00:36,000 went through it you were in a little 2671 02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:38,239 isolated village in germany and you had 2672 02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:41,040 no idea this connected to anything else 2673 02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:43,760 no less than a world revolution 2674 02:00:49,430 --> 02:00:46,800 how long uh does the pluto saturn 2675 02:00:50,390 --> 02:00:49,440 wrestling and capricorn event actually 2676 02:00:51,910 --> 02:00:50,400 last 2677 02:00:55,109 --> 02:00:51,920 well that event 2678 02:00:57,109 --> 02:00:55,119 technically is over okay 2679 02:01:00,950 --> 02:00:57,119 technically because saturn has moved on 2680 02:01:01,910 --> 02:01:00,960 into aquarius saturn through 2021 did a 2681 02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:01,920 square 2682 02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:03,760 with uranus which was kind of this 2683 02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:06,560 extreme old new conservative progressive 2684 02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:08,320 we're still in that and we will be in 2685 02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:10,000 that all this year 2686 02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:12,239 but it's a slightly different energy but 2687 02:01:17,189 --> 02:01:15,199 one fed into the other but the saturn 2688 02:01:18,149 --> 02:01:17,199 pluto piece of it's over but here's the 2689 02:01:20,790 --> 02:01:18,159 problem 2690 02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,800 the coldest day of the year 2691 02:01:26,310 --> 02:01:23,040 is not the day of shortest light in 2692 02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:26,320 other words december 21st theoretically 2693 02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:28,000 should be the coldest day of the year 2694 02:01:32,229 --> 02:01:29,920 because there's no sunlight that day in 2695 02:01:36,070 --> 02:01:32,239 many places right right but because of 2696 02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:36,080 what we call the lag of seasons it takes 2697 02:01:42,070 --> 02:01:39,760 time for the ocean to cool down enough 2698 02:01:44,149 --> 02:01:42,080 that the coldest days are really in 2699 02:01:47,030 --> 02:01:44,159 january or february 2700 02:01:49,430 --> 02:01:47,040 same thing and so these big astrological 2701 02:01:50,790 --> 02:01:49,440 changes that are affecting culture the 2702 02:01:54,070 --> 02:01:50,800 main event 2703 02:01:57,350 --> 02:01:54,080 could be in january of 2020 2704 02:01:58,550 --> 02:01:57,360 but we can still be seeing ramifications 2705 02:02:02,870 --> 02:01:58,560 of it 2706 02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:02,880 still growing in 2021 22-23 the 60s is a 2707 02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:05,599 good example of this the exact 2708 02:02:10,149 --> 02:02:09,040 conjunction between uranus and pluto 2709 02:02:11,430 --> 02:02:10,159 occurred 2710 02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:11,440 three times 2711 02:02:16,830 --> 02:02:14,159 between 19 summer of 65 and summer of 2712 02:02:19,990 --> 02:02:16,840 66. those were the exact 2713 02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:20,000 conjunctions and yet the 2714 02:02:30,149 --> 02:02:23,679 fullest effect of those conjunctions was 2715 02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:30,159 arguably 67 68 69 70 by 71 72 it's 2716 02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:32,320 beginning to fade and it's really not 2717 02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:35,440 until the resignation of nixon in 72 or 2718 02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:38,480 73 that it really feels like the 60s are 2719 02:02:40,229 --> 02:02:39,440 over 2720 02:02:43,990 --> 02:02:40,239 so 2721 02:02:46,790 --> 02:02:44,000 occurred 2722 02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:46,800 we're still in the realm of getting the 2723 02:02:52,070 --> 02:02:49,760 ripples from it that it's not quite done 2724 02:02:55,270 --> 02:02:52,080 yeah it makes sense and especially 2725 02:02:58,390 --> 02:02:55,280 considering uh five years later we had 2726 02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:58,400 van halen's first album in 1978-79 and 2727 02:03:02,709 --> 02:03:00,480 that changed everything 2728 02:03:04,950 --> 02:03:02,719 rick i'm just kidding let's take our 2729 02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:04,960 break right here this is fade to black i 2730 02:03:09,109 --> 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--> 02:07:54,800 brush 2834 02:08:03,350 --> 02:07:56,880 why fade to black 2835 02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:05,510 this is fade to black with jimmy church 2836 02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:09,370 on the game changer radio network 2837 02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:21,280 [Music] 2838 02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:23,040 all right welcome back fade to black i 2839 02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:24,239 am your host jimmy church our guest 2840 02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:26,480 tonight rick levine 2841 02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,079 want to remind everybody tomorrow night 2842 02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:30,639 giorgio sukelos is stopping by we're 2843 02:08:34,870 --> 02:08:32,400 going to be talking about 2844 02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:34,880 ancient alien season 18 2845 02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:36,800 i can't believe that's a big number 2846 02:08:40,870 --> 02:08:39,119 right there season 18 of ancient aliens 2847 02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,880 and of course thursday night is another 2848 02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:42,480 fader night with open lines all night 2849 02:08:45,990 --> 02:08:43,360 long 2850 02:08:48,229 --> 02:08:46,000 and uh now rick um 2851 02:08:49,189 --> 02:08:48,239 let's uh let's open this up a little bit 2852 02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:49,199 um 2853 02:08:53,270 --> 02:08:52,320 how do you see 2854 02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:53,280 uh 2855 02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:58,000 a shift in consciousness and emotion i 2856 02:09:03,430 --> 02:08:59,760 don't want to say from light to dark or 2857 02:09:07,109 --> 02:09:03,440 dark to light but but the planet itself 2858 02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:07,119 as earthlings is experiencing something 2859 02:09:12,950 --> 02:09:09,360 are we going to see 2860 02:09:14,709 --> 02:09:12,960 a shift in consciousness and and is 2861 02:09:19,430 --> 02:09:14,719 somebody that's maybe not aware of it 2862 02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:22,229 good question tough question and 2863 02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:24,480 there's lots of ways we can look at that 2864 02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:26,560 first of all i would say 2865 02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:27,520 um 2866 02:09:35,830 --> 02:09:28,800 that 2867 02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:35,840 most people are feeling 2868 02:09:41,589 --> 02:09:38,639 there are people in parts of the planet 2869 02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:41,599 that uh that had the apocalypse five 2870 02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,639 years ago or 20 years ago depending upon 2871 02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:46,800 what ethnic cleansing was involved or 2872 02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:49,360 what environmental disaster you know we 2873 02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:52,800 tend to think of this time being now but 2874 02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:56,400 but there's this floating kind of uh um 2875 02:10:02,470 --> 02:09:59,360 relativity um and so that what one 2876 02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,480 person or one culture might experience 2877 02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:04,800 as the end times the end of the world 2878 02:10:08,870 --> 02:10:06,719 their entire world falling apart the 2879 02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:08,880 government their country their religion 2880 02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:10,560 someone else might not experience for 2881 02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:13,440 another 20 or 30 years or ever 2882 02:10:18,310 --> 02:10:15,840 now having said that 2883 02:10:21,669 --> 02:10:18,320 i do not think that there is a playbook 2884 02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:21,679 that says light will overcome dark 2885 02:10:25,109 --> 02:10:23,920 or light will overcome darkness 2886 02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:25,119 however 2887 02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:28,079 i think that it is apparent not only to 2888 02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:30,400 astrologers but to most people who are 2889 02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:33,760 paying attention that we've reached a 2890 02:10:39,350 --> 02:10:36,639 bifurcation a place where where 2891 02:10:42,470 --> 02:10:39,360 evolution has reached a point 2892 02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:42,480 and there are two different paths in 2893 02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:44,079 front of us oh there may be many more 2894 02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:45,520 paths than two 2895 02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,560 but but there is on many issues there's 2896 02:10:53,589 --> 02:10:50,880 either this or that you can't be this 2897 02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:53,599 and that it's this or that and whether 2898 02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:55,679 we're talking in relationship to 2899 02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:58,079 pandemic or politics or religion or 2900 02:11:02,550 --> 02:11:01,040 certain beliefs over certain practices i 2901 02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:02,560 don't want to get into them that's not 2902 02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:04,480 that's not what i'm here to say what i'm 2903 02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:06,639 here to say is that there are such 2904 02:11:11,830 --> 02:11:08,800 extreme differences 2905 02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:11,840 that you can't put two people in the 2906 02:11:18,709 --> 02:11:15,199 same room and say talk it out you know 2907 02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:18,719 there's this illusion in psychology 2908 02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:20,719 that if something isn't working you talk 2909 02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:21,760 about it 2910 02:11:26,870 --> 02:11:24,560 and then you get it to work but from a 2911 02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:26,880 practical standpoint everyone knows 2912 02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:29,119 there are certain things in their life 2913 02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:31,920 or in certain relationships whether it's 2914 02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:34,719 with a parent or a child or a friend or 2915 02:11:38,709 --> 02:11:37,440 a spouse or whatever an employer there 2916 02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:38,719 are certain things that you don't talk 2917 02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,880 about because if you do they never go 2918 02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:42,480 anywhere good and they're not going to 2919 02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:44,480 get any better and the more you talk 2920 02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:46,800 about it the greater the tension is 2921 02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:48,960 well it seems like 2922 02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:51,040 we as a culture 2923 02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:54,079 have flipped out and when i i'm using a 2924 02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:56,560 mcluhan term here meaning we've taken 2925 02:12:02,069 --> 02:11:59,760 our internal um nervous system and we've 2926 02:12:04,709 --> 02:12:02,079 actually flipped it out so that it's the 2927 02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:04,719 world wide web the internet 2928 02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,119 we now have exo nervous systems our 2929 02:12:11,350 --> 02:12:09,360 nervous system is out there we are like 2930 02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:11,360 cells that are running around inside of 2931 02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,800 this great brain 2932 02:12:15,630 --> 02:12:15,280 we've flipped out 2933 02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:15,640 and 2934 02:12:19,270 --> 02:12:17,440 [Music] 2935 02:12:21,189 --> 02:12:19,280 we're not neurotic 2936 02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:21,199 because if we were neurotic we could do 2937 02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:23,119 therapy and fix our 2938 02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:24,800 our our ills 2939 02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:27,360 we're psychotic you can't talk your way 2940 02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:29,280 out of the psychosis 2941 02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:32,880 and so the the odd position we're in 2942 02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:35,119 is definitely odd we've never been here 2943 02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:37,840 culturally before because so much of it 2944 02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:39,840 involves the technology of that 2945 02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:42,239 instantaneous cosmic feedback loop i was 2946 02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:44,000 talking about we've never had the 2947 02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:46,000 technology of being able to be 2948 02:12:50,709 --> 02:12:48,400 self-aware minute by minute 2949 02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:50,719 any place in the world you want to focus 2950 02:12:55,109 --> 02:12:52,800 on a particular city in a particular 2951 02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:55,119 island in the south seas you can focus 2952 02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:57,040 on that wherever you are on the planet 2953 02:13:02,470 --> 02:12:59,280 in other words there's this there's this 2954 02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:02,480 ongoing instantaneous feedback 2955 02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:03,280 and 2956 02:13:10,229 --> 02:13:08,639 that we've reached a point of extreme 2957 02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:10,239 we can't go on this way what will the 2958 02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:11,520 solution be 2959 02:13:16,149 --> 02:13:14,320 i don't know but you know whether i'm 2960 02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:16,159 going to say alien intervention for the 2961 02:13:22,310 --> 02:13:18,800 second alien intervention for the second 2962 02:13:24,629 --> 02:13:22,320 time tonight only because it may take 2963 02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:24,639 something as extreme 2964 02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:27,520 um you know obviously whatever your 2965 02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:30,560 individual relationship with the um 2966 02:13:35,669 --> 02:13:32,800 pandemic that we've experienced over the 2967 02:13:37,669 --> 02:13:35,679 past you know a couple of years 2968 02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:37,679 the fact of the matter is 2969 02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:40,079 that it got everyone's attention in some 2970 02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:41,199 way 2971 02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:50,560 that we know we need to fix things we're 2972 02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:53,360 still going on with the way things were 2973 02:13:57,189 --> 02:13:55,679 and i i think that 2974 02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:57,199 the idea that 2975 02:14:02,709 --> 02:14:00,159 an emergency is things that emerge when 2976 02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:02,719 that there when there is a crisis 2977 02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:03,599 and 2978 02:14:10,149 --> 02:14:08,560 is that we're going to require 2979 02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:10,159 in order to 2980 02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:12,639 either hurt badly enough or be afraid 2981 02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:14,880 enough for us to get it right and to 2982 02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:17,599 overcome our personal differences and 2983 02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:19,840 realize that we all live on this little 2984 02:14:26,790 --> 02:14:23,440 dot speck of dust island whatever you 2985 02:14:29,990 --> 02:14:26,800 know and that if you win and i lose we 2986 02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:30,000 all lose if i win and you lose we all 2987 02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:32,880 lose we have to figure out some way of 2988 02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:35,920 unifying of of allowing each to have 2989 02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:37,840 very different perspectives of what the 2990 02:14:42,229 --> 02:14:40,000 world looks like and yet have some 2991 02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:42,239 commonality in the future where we at 2992 02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:44,639 least can get together on it now this is 2993 02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:47,280 not new age pie in the sky dreaming i 2994 02:14:51,910 --> 02:14:49,840 think we got a ton of work to do but 2995 02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:51,920 it's but but we've never been here 2996 02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:55,199 before no and and the choices are are 2997 02:15:01,350 --> 02:14:57,199 going to be right in front of us and and 2998 02:15:02,310 --> 02:15:01,360 dramatic and i think that we all know 2999 02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:02,320 uh 3000 02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:04,000 that we're going to come out of this 3001 02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:05,840 different it's not going to be the same 3002 02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:08,239 world it's not and i think we all really 3003 02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:09,599 isn't it all right 3004 02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:11,679 same world right right right and then to 3005 02:15:15,430 --> 02:15:13,679 throw into the mix 3006 02:15:16,790 --> 02:15:15,440 i'm so glad you brought up alien 3007 02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:16,800 intervention 3008 02:15:22,550 --> 02:15:19,679 because we haven't had 3009 02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,560 a global conversation about contact and 3010 02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:24,560 ufos and disclosure 3011 02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,960 like we are today ever we've never had 3012 02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:28,639 this conversation 3013 02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:32,000 uh like this in this context 3014 02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:34,480 is there something inevitable that is 3015 02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:37,119 about to happen that would do just what 3016 02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:38,400 you're saying 3017 02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:40,719 i can't answer that personally but i 3018 02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:42,639 certainly know enough people that 3019 02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:44,639 believe that there is people that i know 3020 02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:46,880 and trust that i that there certainly is 3021 02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:49,520 something there beyond that i another 3022 02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:51,840 thing i'm agnostic about not agnostic 3023 02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:53,360 because i don't believe i'm agnostic 3024 02:15:57,910 --> 02:15:56,079 because i don't know right why do you 3025 02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:57,920 now let's go back to the charts for a 3026 02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:00,639 second when we're thinking about 3027 02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:03,520 uh you know some of these big events 3028 02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:05,520 that have happened 3029 02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:07,840 and there's been a lot of them and 3030 02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:10,480 to to go down the list of the headlines 3031 02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:12,719 of the last three or four years 3032 02:16:16,149 --> 02:16:14,239 it would take me forever to go through 3033 02:16:19,030 --> 02:16:16,159 that list but part of that 3034 02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:19,040 one of the most dramatic things is 3035 02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:21,119 is the navy and the department of the 3036 02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:24,560 defense and the senate and and pilots 3037 02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:28,560 and and disclosure and the media 3038 02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:31,440 and and suddenly ufos are part of this 3039 02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:32,880 conversation 3040 02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:36,880 and the timing of it i find suspect in 3041 02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:39,679 that it's beyond coincidence to go on 3042 02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:41,200 when all of this other drama is 3043 02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:43,920 happening at the same time yeah well you 3044 02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:45,359 know 3045 02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:46,960 as i'm sure you and many of your 3046 02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:49,679 listeners know you know we can go all 3047 02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:50,719 the way 3048 02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,000 you know back to the brookings 3049 02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:54,639 institution you know original papers 3050 02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:57,519 about the necessity of the us government 3051 02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,399 to keep any alien artifacts or contacts 3052 02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:02,319 from the public because it would be the 3053 02:17:05,990 --> 02:17:04,559 dissolution of society as we know it 3054 02:17:09,589 --> 02:17:06,000 that was from the 3055 02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:09,599 late 50s you know and certainly the you 3056 02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:11,679 know the suppression of 3057 02:17:15,589 --> 02:17:14,319 uh you know stuff i i mean i i just 3058 02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:15,599 because i say i don't know if this will 3059 02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:17,840 happen doesn't mean that i'm not aware 3060 02:17:24,150 --> 02:17:21,519 of this whole train of um 3061 02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:24,160 you know of process i actually got like 3062 02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:25,599 i said interested 3063 02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:29,519 in ufos um i think i was probably 3064 02:17:33,910 --> 02:17:31,760 you know in junior high school you know 3065 02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:33,920 and that was around the time of project 3066 02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:36,559 blue book and knew already that the 3067 02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,359 government was you know closing down 3068 02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:41,519 investigation on something that there 3069 02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,960 were too many people who were 3070 02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:44,399 intelligent who knew there was something 3071 02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:45,280 there 3072 02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:47,040 so but i don't know but it's going to 3073 02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:49,200 take something like that i mean look 3074 02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:52,080 global warming or global weirding or 3075 02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:54,000 climate change or whatever you want to 3076 02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,080 call it there's something in front of us 3077 02:17:59,910 --> 02:17:58,080 doesn't matter what your politics are 3078 02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,920 and it doesn't matter what the reason is 3079 02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:01,679 that you think this is why this is 3080 02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:02,639 happening 3081 02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:06,719 you know and and yet is this enough to 3082 02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:09,519 get us all together no half of us you 3083 02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:12,240 know half the planet still seems to just 3084 02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:15,200 be very happy in its state of denial you 3085 02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,960 know and denial 3086 02:18:22,070 --> 02:18:18,719 is something that is a very real 3087 02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:22,080 psychological um reaction to things that 3088 02:18:27,910 --> 02:18:24,960 involve change or you know especially if 3089 02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:27,920 things are okay or we're managing okay 3090 02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:29,359 you know we don't want to confront 3091 02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:32,479 things that are too overwhelming um 3092 02:18:37,030 --> 02:18:34,399 but we may have to or we may be doing 3093 02:18:38,549 --> 02:18:37,040 that already or on the edge of it now 3094 02:18:39,750 --> 02:18:38,559 let's break down 3095 02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:39,760 uh 3096 02:18:45,669 --> 02:18:40,880 how 3097 02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:45,679 do you look at things 3098 02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:52,160 week you know month or do you do all of 3099 02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:57,190 kind kind of all of that i mean when i 3100 02:19:01,990 --> 02:18:59,280 was writing these annual books for 3101 02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:02,000 barnes and noble i was looking at a day 3102 02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:04,719 by day for a year and a half ahead 3103 02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:07,359 at the same time right i was doing an 3104 02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:10,160 internet youtube which i still do by the 3105 02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:13,519 way i have a a monthly uh free youtube 3106 02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:15,760 channel that you can find by going to 3107 02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:17,599 youtube.com 3108 02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:23,519 and i do a monthly discussion of the 3109 02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:25,519 astrological 3110 02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:28,399 influences of the month coming up 3111 02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:30,399 and then i also write a daily column 3112 02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:33,040 about what's going on tomorrow 3113 02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:35,359 and often i don't know when the hell i 3114 02:19:40,309 --> 02:19:38,319 am because i'm off in the future um i 3115 02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:40,319 you know wrote an article about the 3116 02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:43,040 astrology of the next you know decade 3117 02:19:48,309 --> 02:19:44,880 and and so 3118 02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:48,319 yes all of those things however i would 3119 02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:49,760 come back to something i said at the 3120 02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:52,160 very beginning and that is although 3121 02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:55,200 astrology is a really good map it's not 3122 02:20:00,870 --> 02:19:57,920 the only way to look at things i do know 3123 02:20:01,670 --> 02:20:00,880 astrologers who won't get up to go take 3124 02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:01,680 a pee 3125 02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:03,520 unless the right planet is in the right 3126 02:20:08,630 --> 02:20:06,640 sign and i think that's crazy uh i 3127 02:20:11,349 --> 02:20:08,640 mean i i i mean i'm kind of 3128 02:20:14,070 --> 02:20:11,359 caricaturizing it but but i know many 3129 02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:14,080 professionals who who before they do 3130 02:20:17,349 --> 02:20:15,520 anything 3131 02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:17,359 or clients who want to call their 3132 02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:19,680 astrologer and say you know is this a 3133 02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:22,000 good day for me to ask so and so out or 3134 02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:24,560 for me to send that to send in my taxes 3135 02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:27,439 or whatever right and as much as i use 3136 02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:30,240 and believe in astrology um you know i 3137 02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:32,080 think that when you pay too much 3138 02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,000 attention to things on an analytical 3139 02:20:39,190 --> 02:20:36,240 level uh you're not living 3140 02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:39,200 you're analyzing you know and so there 3141 02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:42,000 is a point at which astrology and any 3142 02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:42,800 map 3143 02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:45,920 becomes too much because it's easy 3144 02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:48,880 to confuse the map with reality 3145 02:20:54,389 --> 02:20:52,399 astrology is not reality it's a way of 3146 02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:54,399 of contextualizing 3147 02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:58,399 of framing it for understanding um but 3148 02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:00,240 yeah that's my short answer yeah well 3149 02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:02,960 okay so the reason why i'm asking in 3150 02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:05,120 nine days uh 3151 02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:08,080 one of the big events in the of the year 3152 02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:10,080 of of every year is the conscious life 3153 02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:11,200 expo 3154 02:21:15,349 --> 02:21:13,040 and you know it's nine days away 3155 02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:15,359 february 4th through the 7th 3156 02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:19,920 when when you got those dates um 3157 02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:22,479 did you and how was that weekend going 3158 02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:25,760 to be for us i'm very concerned 3159 02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:27,600 for myself personally right this is 3160 02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,120 we're getting thousands of people 3161 02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:31,439 together we're all going to converge at 3162 02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:35,120 one point in los angeles for three days 3163 02:21:38,830 --> 02:21:37,280 uh and we're getting together we're all 3164 02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:38,840 leaving the 3165 02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:42,560 house is did you look at those dates 3166 02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:45,359 yeah yeah i did and and and i've done it 3167 02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:48,399 on a couple of levels again um 3168 02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:49,760 first of all 3169 02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:50,720 um 3170 02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:52,960 i've already done 3171 02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:56,080 um my analysis for february for my 3172 02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:59,040 february month ahead um which won't go 3173 02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:00,560 up for another if you won't go online 3174 02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:02,080 for another few days 3175 02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:05,600 um but yes i i certainly have looked at 3176 02:22:08,630 --> 02:22:07,760 that i i certainly 3177 02:22:10,630 --> 02:22:08,640 know 3178 02:22:11,750 --> 02:22:10,640 that that weekend 3179 02:22:14,630 --> 02:22:11,760 um 3180 02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:14,640 mercury which has been retrograde turns 3181 02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:17,040 direct on the fourth fifth and that's 3182 02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:20,479 hugely powerful for communication 3183 02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:22,800 um i know that there's a lot of things 3184 02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:25,840 very very powerfully working for us that 3185 02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:29,200 at that time but i also know that on the 3186 02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:30,080 fourth 3187 02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:33,200 the sun is making its once every year 3188 02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:36,080 conjunction with saturn which is a bit 3189 02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:38,319 more serious and there is a bit of 3190 02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:40,560 constraint and restraint around all of 3191 02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:41,359 this 3192 02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:46,800 astrologically 3193 02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:48,800 often things are 3194 02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:50,720 50 you're tall 3195 02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:51,760 and 3196 02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:54,880 50 you're short what does that mean 3197 02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,960 uh it means that you're tall short it 3198 02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:58,960 means that it means that this is going 3199 02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:01,840 to be i think an extremely powerful um 3200 02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:04,640 weekend and yet there may be either some 3201 02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:07,520 glitches or some restraints in it that 3202 02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:10,160 are holding back that that make this 3203 02:23:12,950 --> 02:23:11,760 different than other conscious life 3204 02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:12,960 expos 3205 02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:15,200 we'll have to wait and see i i love the 3206 02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,680 fact that venus which has been 3207 02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:18,960 retrograde 3208 02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:20,720 turns direct 3209 02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:23,840 um this week actually on the 29th 3210 02:23:29,349 --> 02:23:26,080 and that mercury which has been 3211 02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:29,359 retrograde turns direct on the fourth 3212 02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:30,800 and when planets which have been 3213 02:23:34,309 --> 02:23:32,080 retrograde it's like they've been 3214 02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:34,319 storing up energy and as they move 3215 02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:37,040 forward that energy moves so i think 3216 02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:39,280 that regardless of what happens there'll 3217 02:23:46,150 --> 02:23:42,800 be a lot of movement you know around the 3218 02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:46,160 energy of this of this weekend now one 3219 02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:48,160 can read that from either a positive or 3220 02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:50,399 negative point of view depending upon 3221 02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:53,040 what one is projecting into it and 3222 02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:54,800 there's where it gets tricky we don't 3223 02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:59,359 know now for you is it a positive thing 3224 02:24:02,710 --> 02:24:01,280 well for me it's a positive enough thing 3225 02:24:04,950 --> 02:24:02,720 that i'm going to be there yeah that's 3226 02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:04,960 what i'm talking about 3227 02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:06,880 no i mean i'm serious i'm being serious 3228 02:24:11,750 --> 02:24:09,200 too yeah yeah 3229 02:24:12,790 --> 02:24:11,760 now why is 3230 02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:12,800 uh 3231 02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:17,920 from retrograde to 3232 02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:21,760 direct why is it so important and why do 3233 02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:24,240 so many in our community 3234 02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:26,640 uh it seems like mercury's in retrograde 3235 02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:29,040 all year i mean to me because of the 3236 02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:29,920 comments 3237 02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:32,160 let me clarify that um 3238 02:24:36,950 --> 02:24:34,640 saturn is in is retrograde for five 3239 02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:36,960 months a year as is uranus neptune and 3240 02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:38,960 pluto right no one talks about that 3241 02:24:42,950 --> 02:24:40,080 right 3242 02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:42,960 mercury is retrograde 3243 02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:46,800 three times a year right for about three 3244 02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:49,760 weeks each time 3245 02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:53,120 so it's not retrograde all that much but 3246 02:24:57,670 --> 02:24:55,760 it's the one that moves the quickest in 3247 02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:57,680 and out of retrograde direct and 3248 02:25:01,670 --> 02:24:59,520 retrograde direct and it's those 3249 02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:01,680 changing of directions it's like if you 3250 02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:03,439 were driving in a car 3251 02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,680 30 miles an hour slammed on the brakes 3252 02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:07,920 and threw it into reverse everyone would 3253 02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:11,200 know it that's mercury moving fast but 3254 02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:13,359 if you were in an 18-wheeler in a 3255 02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:14,640 parking lot 3256 02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:16,240 moving forward 3257 02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:18,399 let's say 3258 02:25:25,510 --> 02:25:22,800 a quarter of a mile every hour 3259 02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:25,520 just barely moving forward 3260 02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:27,280 and the driver slammed on the brakes and 3261 02:25:31,670 --> 02:25:29,520 put it into reverse you might not even 3262 02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:31,680 notice 3263 02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:33,600 so mercury because it's the fastest 3264 02:25:38,870 --> 02:25:35,920 moving planet changes directions the 3265 02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:38,880 fastest and and and therefore it has to 3266 02:25:43,349 --> 02:25:41,200 do with that whole communication uh 3267 02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:43,359 disruption or awareness around sending 3268 02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,319 and receiving information but mercury 3269 02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:48,240 moving direct 3270 02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:49,280 usually 3271 02:25:54,389 --> 02:25:51,439 loosens up things and allows them to 3272 02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:54,399 move forward whereas mercury turning 3273 02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:57,760 retrograde kind of puts things on hold 3274 02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:59,359 and you can think of it almost like a 3275 02:26:03,590 --> 02:26:01,760 pendulum that goes back and forth 3276 02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:03,600 in order for a pendulum to turn 3277 02:26:07,510 --> 02:26:05,280 directions 3278 02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,520 as it begins to reach the end it 3279 02:26:12,070 --> 02:26:09,840 actually slows down 3280 02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:12,080 until it stops 3281 02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:15,280 then it moves very slowly it picks up 3282 02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,359 speed and in the middle of its cycle is 3283 02:26:21,910 --> 02:26:19,359 when it's moving the fastest right well 3284 02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:21,920 the planets do that too and the rough 3285 02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:24,399 rule of thumb in planets this is 3286 02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,120 actually more um a rule of physics and 3287 02:26:31,349 --> 02:26:29,680 inertia and that is that the slower 3288 02:26:32,830 --> 02:26:31,359 something moves the more inertia the 3289 02:26:37,270 --> 02:26:32,840 more power it 3290 02:26:39,910 --> 02:26:37,280 has so that you know so that a um 3291 02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:39,920 mosquito which moves very fast 3292 02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:43,040 um you know it might not have nearly the 3293 02:26:48,710 --> 02:26:45,520 same power you know as something much 3294 02:26:51,030 --> 02:26:48,720 larger moving slower coming at you 3295 02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:51,040 and and so the idea is that when a 3296 02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:53,200 planet slows down 3297 02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:55,120 like mercury and venus to turn 3298 02:27:00,469 --> 02:26:58,399 retrograde or direct and it has to stop 3299 02:27:01,750 --> 02:27:00,479 it's almost like everything that planet 3300 02:27:04,469 --> 02:27:01,760 represents 3301 02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:04,479 kind of comes into high focus 3302 02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,000 and so 3303 02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:08,080 so what we astrologer call the 3304 02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:11,120 astrologers call these points stations 3305 02:27:16,389 --> 02:27:13,359 it's at the planet stations that hold 3306 02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:16,399 still the word station means to to make 3307 02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,120 a singular point and hold it 3308 02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:21,439 and so when a planet stations that means 3309 02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:23,040 moving from direct to retrograde or 3310 02:27:28,389 --> 02:27:25,920 retrograde to direct it becomes key and 3311 02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,399 the fact that both venus and mars i'm 3312 02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:30,720 sorry both venus and mercury were the 3313 02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:33,680 last of the planets as you went through 3314 02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:35,040 last summer 3315 02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,800 and into the autumn 3316 02:27:42,790 --> 02:27:38,080 we had 3317 02:27:45,270 --> 02:27:42,800 pluto neptune uranus saturn jupiter all 3318 02:27:47,990 --> 02:27:45,280 retrograde the heavyweights and that 3319 02:27:51,429 --> 02:27:48,000 often is a time when we just 3320 02:27:53,830 --> 02:27:51,439 culturally things are moving slower and 3321 02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:53,840 those planets are now moving fast or 3322 02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:56,560 moving forward and now venus and mercury 3323 02:28:01,590 --> 02:27:59,920 are too so i would expect over the rest 3324 02:28:03,590 --> 02:28:01,600 of february 3325 02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:03,600 um you know the the 3326 02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:06,080 the last three quarters of february and 3327 02:28:11,670 --> 02:28:08,960 on into march i expect to see a lot of 3328 02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,680 progression into whatever it is that's 3329 02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:13,840 new now the question is what is it that 3330 02:28:17,750 --> 02:28:15,920 will be new i don't have the answer to 3331 02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:17,760 that but i do know that things are going 3332 02:28:22,630 --> 02:28:19,920 to really pick up in speed and we may 3333 02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,640 see that um that over the weekend at you 3334 02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:24,640 know conscious life expo well you know 3335 02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:27,840 that seems uh like positive news uh to 3336 02:28:33,429 --> 02:28:29,439 me 3337 02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,439 would take it that way but again 3338 02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:35,760 positive and negative are really about 3339 02:28:41,030 --> 02:28:38,479 how we react to something you know like 3340 02:28:42,710 --> 02:28:41,040 uh to say that it is a 3341 02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:42,720 rainy day 3342 02:28:48,230 --> 02:28:45,760 is a terrible piece of negative news to 3343 02:28:50,469 --> 02:28:48,240 the person who has gotten on an airplane 3344 02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:50,479 flown to san diego has their suntan 3345 02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:52,000 lotion in hand and wanted to go to the 3346 02:28:54,550 --> 02:28:53,040 beach 3347 02:28:56,710 --> 02:28:54,560 but it's a fantastic 3348 02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:56,720 day for the ducks i guess the damn 3349 02:29:01,270 --> 02:28:58,880 humans won't be there and so they have 3350 02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:01,280 the beach to themselves so we have to be 3351 02:29:06,150 --> 02:29:03,359 careful about what's good and bad 3352 02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:06,160 because things are not universally 3353 02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:08,640 positive or negative it depends on what 3354 02:29:13,190 --> 02:29:11,200 how they impact our lives and what we're 3355 02:29:17,030 --> 02:29:13,200 going to do about it or with it 3356 02:29:19,990 --> 02:29:17,040 now uh that answers uh uh leading out of 3357 02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:20,000 february uh before we head to the break 3358 02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,520 just uh 3359 02:29:26,469 --> 02:29:23,600 leading into the summer how do you see 3360 02:29:30,389 --> 02:29:28,309 well and i should before we get any 3361 02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:30,399 further i should just mention here also 3362 02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:32,080 that aside from looking at these long 3363 02:29:36,790 --> 02:29:33,840 term cycles which i will in just a 3364 02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:36,800 second i also write a daily astrological 3365 02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:40,240 reflection it's available on instagram 3366 02:29:44,150 --> 02:29:41,680 instagram.com 3367 02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:44,160 rick levine astrologer rick levine 3368 02:29:48,230 --> 02:29:45,359 astrologer 3369 02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:48,240 um and and so following those day-to-day 3370 02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:50,800 things the fluctuations can be quite 3371 02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:53,600 significant from one day to another day 3372 02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:55,600 but then when we look at the overall 3373 02:29:59,670 --> 02:29:58,080 cycles we see kind of a different energy 3374 02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:59,680 and i think that the energy that we're 3375 02:30:03,590 --> 02:30:00,640 seeing 3376 02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:03,600 over the next next couple of months is 3377 02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:07,040 an energy of moving forward and feeling 3378 02:30:10,950 --> 02:30:08,800 more and more like we're leaving 3379 02:30:12,550 --> 02:30:10,960 something behind us which for a lot of 3380 02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:12,560 people that's going to be really good 3381 02:30:16,469 --> 02:30:14,080 not for everyone 3382 02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:16,479 but i also feel like 3383 02:30:22,870 --> 02:30:19,840 the new moon in march uh i think it's 3384 02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:22,880 march 3rd or 4th i think is going to be 3385 02:30:28,710 --> 02:30:26,080 a powerhouse of of a few days 3386 02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:28,720 around disclosure and i say disclosure i 3387 02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:30,880 don't know whether that's going to be um 3388 02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:33,040 alien disclosure economic disclosure 3389 02:30:38,230 --> 02:30:35,840 political disclosure personal i don't 3390 02:30:40,469 --> 02:30:38,240 know it's just that the amount of energy 3391 02:30:42,230 --> 02:30:40,479 around that i think ultimately is 3392 02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,240 positive but you look at what's 3393 02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:44,080 happening in the world there's always 3394 02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:46,240 other things and so it's hard to say 3395 02:30:50,150 --> 02:30:48,399 good news bad news but i know that 3396 02:30:52,950 --> 02:30:50,160 there's going to be a lot of progression 3397 02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:52,960 moving forward and by the time we get to 3398 02:30:56,309 --> 02:30:54,640 later in the summer 3399 02:31:00,150 --> 02:30:56,319 i think we're going to feel like we're 3400 02:31:01,910 --> 02:31:00,160 slipping back into 2020 2021 again i 3401 02:31:04,550 --> 02:31:01,920 think some of the same arguments and 3402 02:31:07,429 --> 02:31:04,560 discussions will feel unresolved 3403 02:31:08,950 --> 02:31:07,439 irresolvable and we may feel like oh no 3404 02:31:11,349 --> 02:31:08,960 you know we're never going to get out of 3405 02:31:12,389 --> 02:31:11,359 this i'm i'm reminded of bob dylan's 3406 02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:12,399 line 3407 02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:14,399 stuck inside of mobile with the memphis 3408 02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:16,399 blues again and the last line of the 3409 02:31:19,670 --> 02:31:17,920 song is something about i don't know how 3410 02:31:21,910 --> 02:31:19,680 many times i have to go through this you 3411 02:31:23,990 --> 02:31:21,920 know to get out of here i know i just 3412 02:31:26,230 --> 02:31:24,000 ruined his lyrics completely but it's 3413 02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:26,240 that kind of feeling whereas like you 3414 02:31:31,670 --> 02:31:29,200 know oh mama can this really be the end 3415 02:31:34,150 --> 02:31:31,680 stuck inside of mobile with the memphis 3416 02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:34,160 blues again i i don't think we're 3417 02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:36,160 through this yet but i think that things 3418 02:31:40,830 --> 02:31:38,800 really do lighten up and i think a lot 3419 02:31:43,750 --> 02:31:40,840 of it is about people 3420 02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:43,760 um people's individual attitudes i mean 3421 02:31:48,309 --> 02:31:45,600 you nailed it earlier on we're all 3422 02:31:49,990 --> 02:31:48,319 exhausted with the crap you know um we 3423 02:31:52,550 --> 02:31:50,000 just you know we want to move forward 3424 02:31:54,870 --> 02:31:52,560 whatever that means you know but moving 3425 02:31:57,270 --> 02:31:54,880 forward means different things to you 3426 02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:57,280 know to bob and bill 3427 02:32:02,070 --> 02:31:59,520 yeah well yeah and now i'm going to ask 3428 02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:02,080 you rick to stay over for overtime 3429 02:32:05,750 --> 02:32:04,479 because i i want to discuss 3430 02:32:08,070 --> 02:32:05,760 time 3431 02:32:10,150 --> 02:32:08,080 when we come back and and i saved this 3432 02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:10,160 for last we might uh dabble into 3433 02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:13,920 einstein but i i agree with you 3434 02:32:19,750 --> 02:32:16,800 we're all exhausted but i think that the 3435 02:32:22,790 --> 02:32:19,760 relief that everybody would love to have 3436 02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:22,800 is at least a sense of knowing what 3437 02:32:27,910 --> 02:32:24,960 direction we're going in because it's 3438 02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:27,920 just been blind right just 3439 02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:30,160 without that sense if we just had 3440 02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:32,000 direction in front of us 3441 02:32:35,830 --> 02:32:33,840 i think we'd be much 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this is kjcr 3541 02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:00,950 [Music] 3542 02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:05,040 all right welcome back fade to black i 3543 02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:06,880 am your host jimmy church tonight rick 3544 02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:09,840 levine is with us 3545 02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:11,600 heading into overtime what a great 3546 02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:13,680 conversation tonight 3547 02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:15,200 and uh 3548 02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:17,120 just watching some of the comments uh 3549 02:38:21,110 --> 02:38:18,880 that are going around on the net and i 3550 02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:21,120 think that everybody has figured out 3551 02:38:24,950 --> 02:38:22,640 that i've learned a few things tonight 3552 02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:24,960 rick and i appreciate that part of it 3553 02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:27,120 but i'm gonna i'm just going to let you 3554 02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:30,160 know that uh you and i are going to 3555 02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:33,040 spend a few days together um 3556 02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:35,520 i'm going to get one of those shirts i 3557 02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:37,600 don't know how i'm going to do it 3558 02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:39,920 uh but i'm going to try to pull that off 3559 02:38:45,030 --> 02:38:42,640 and maybe i'll i'll trade you why don't 3560 02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:45,040 we why don't we barter can we barter can 3561 02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:46,720 i barter my way 3562 02:38:55,990 --> 02:38:52,790 is it possible 3563 02:38:58,150 --> 02:38:56,000 okay you're muted 3564 02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:58,160 you're muted something is something is 3565 02:39:02,950 --> 02:39:00,880 muted on your sorry about that nothing 3566 02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:02,960 nothing is impossible but let's just say 3567 02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:04,960 it's highly unlikely 3568 02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:07,520 we're about the same size 3569 02:39:17,750 --> 02:39:14,469 what do you wear oh no no i'm kidding 3570 02:39:23,510 --> 02:39:19,590 now um 3571 02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:23,520 on monday uh you're going to uh do a 3572 02:39:27,110 --> 02:39:24,880 post conference 3573 02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,120 a presentation on time 3574 02:39:31,349 --> 02:39:29,359 and i think it'll be one of three i'm 3575 02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:31,359 doing three different post conferences 3576 02:39:34,469 --> 02:39:33,200 that's one of them that's one of them 3577 02:39:37,510 --> 02:39:34,479 and 3578 02:39:38,389 --> 02:39:37,520 uh it is one of the most interesting 3579 02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:38,399 subjects 3580 02:39:44,550 --> 02:39:42,000 that we can get into and uh i mean as as 3581 02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:44,560 a as a planet uh certainly as as the 3582 02:39:49,510 --> 02:39:45,760 audience 3583 02:39:51,349 --> 02:39:49,520 uh here uh likes to discuss because 3584 02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:51,359 you get any 3585 02:39:55,429 --> 02:39:53,040 you can't get any scientists or 3586 02:39:58,230 --> 02:39:55,439 physicists or intellectual 3587 02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:58,240 to uh two of them to agree on what time 3588 02:40:04,230 --> 02:39:59,280 is 3589 02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:04,240 intriguing because i have my own 3590 02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:07,200 versions of time what is your version of 3591 02:40:09,560 --> 02:40:09,200 time 3592 02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:09,570 um 3593 02:40:12,710 --> 02:40:10,960 [Music] 3594 02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:12,720 let me just before i answer that just 3595 02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:14,800 throw in one quick thing uh something 3596 02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:17,200 you closed with about where are we going 3597 02:40:21,990 --> 02:40:19,040 where do we go from here right and i 3598 02:40:25,510 --> 02:40:22,000 just wanted to say just very briefly 3599 02:40:28,870 --> 02:40:25,520 that we can't know where we're going 3600 02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:28,880 until we know where we are 3601 02:40:32,950 --> 02:40:30,560 and and that's all i mean that's another 3602 02:40:34,550 --> 02:40:32,960 whole conversation but but we had to 3603 02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:34,560 have the discussion of where we are 3604 02:40:38,710 --> 02:40:37,120 going is futile if we don't know where 3605 02:40:40,790 --> 02:40:38,720 we've come from 3606 02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:40,800 and we don't know where we are and those 3607 02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:42,240 may be some of the things that we're 3608 02:40:46,790 --> 02:40:43,840 having to re-learn 3609 02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:46,800 um that may take us to some other you 3610 02:40:51,990 --> 02:40:49,120 know these larger you know disclosure 3611 02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:52,000 related issues um but it's just just an 3612 02:40:54,950 --> 02:40:53,359 another point 3613 02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:54,960 um 3614 02:41:00,389 --> 02:40:56,880 my definition of time 3615 02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:00,399 uh is is pretty straightforward 3616 02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:02,560 and is this 3617 02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:04,960 time is created 3618 02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:06,880 by the revolution 3619 02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:10,560 of something around a greater center 3620 02:41:16,550 --> 02:41:13,600 correct i agree with that 3621 02:41:18,710 --> 02:41:16,560 i no i agree with that i agree 3622 02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:18,720 okay i'm gonna stop you there for a 3623 02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:21,760 second and and say this last week on the 3624 02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:22,960 show 3625 02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:25,680 um and then last night i had an ama and 3626 02:41:31,269 --> 02:41:28,160 this this subject came up once again it 3627 02:41:32,870 --> 02:41:31,279 comes up all the time and i just said 3628 02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:32,880 time like 3629 02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:35,600 three times in a sentence but here's the 3630 02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:37,680 deal with that 3631 02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:39,840 um 3632 02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:44,000 because an astrologer of understands 3633 02:41:50,469 --> 02:41:46,880 this concept probably more than anybody 3634 02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,479 uh a year one lap around the sun 3635 02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:52,880 right there and dividing that up and we 3636 02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:55,200 get we get it down to hours minutes 3637 02:41:59,510 --> 02:41:57,520 seconds days and so forth 3638 02:42:02,389 --> 02:41:59,520 that is just 3639 02:42:03,590 --> 02:42:02,399 because of our revolution 3640 02:42:04,309 --> 02:42:03,600 now 3641 02:42:05,670 --> 02:42:04,319 to 3642 02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:05,680 e.t 3643 02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:07,680 what is their concept of time i don't 3644 02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:08,479 know 3645 02:42:13,030 --> 02:42:09,920 how many 3646 02:42:16,070 --> 02:42:13,040 uh you know days or or whatever 3647 02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:16,080 their lap around their celestial body is 3648 02:42:19,750 --> 02:42:18,399 i don't know what that is but that same 3649 02:42:22,389 --> 02:42:19,760 measurement 3650 02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:22,399 has to be relative to them 3651 02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:24,800 to fit math and physics throughout the 3652 02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:26,319 universe you've gotta 3653 02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:28,800 you've gotta work that into 3654 02:42:36,150 --> 02:42:32,800 uh your daily life whatever it may be 3655 02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:36,160 their concept of time and hours cannot 3656 02:42:42,150 --> 02:42:38,479 be the same unless 3657 02:42:43,830 --> 02:42:42,160 they do 365 days around their son 3658 02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:43,840 with a leap year 3659 02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:46,399 thrown in 365.24 3660 02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,680 right anyhow 3661 02:42:50,790 --> 02:42:49,279 um yeah 3662 02:42:52,230 --> 02:42:50,800 what you're talking about is something 3663 02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:52,240 that people don't think about and that's 3664 02:42:57,910 --> 02:42:54,640 called chronocentricity 3665 02:42:59,950 --> 02:42:57,920 uh you know we think of the big change 3666 02:43:02,870 --> 02:42:59,960 going from 3667 02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:02,880 geocentricity the earth is the center 3668 02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:06,160 and this is what galileo spent 30 years 3669 02:43:12,070 --> 02:43:09,040 one saturn cycle 30 years under house 3670 02:43:14,150 --> 02:43:12,080 arrest for because he claimed that the 3671 02:43:15,910 --> 02:43:14,160 earth actually was moving and the sun 3672 02:43:18,150 --> 02:43:15,920 wasn't going around the earth the earth 3673 02:43:20,870 --> 02:43:18,160 was going around the sun well this thing 3674 02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:20,880 called the copernican revolution which 3675 02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:23,040 was really a result of copernicus and 3676 02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:25,840 galileo and kepler and newton and many 3677 02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,960 other people 3678 02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:28,880 is the shift of thinking 3679 02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:29,680 that 3680 02:43:33,830 --> 02:43:32,080 we don't live on a stationary earth with 3681 02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:33,840 everything going around it the earth is 3682 02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:36,479 not the center the sun is the center 3683 02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:38,160 but then we learned that the sun is 3684 02:43:44,389 --> 02:43:41,520 really just a rather unremarkable star 3685 02:43:47,590 --> 02:43:44,399 on the far edge of the sagittarian arm 3686 02:43:49,429 --> 02:43:47,600 of this galaxy that's one in a trillion 3687 02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:49,439 galaxies 3688 02:43:53,429 --> 02:43:52,000 and to go and say the age of the 3689 02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:53,439 universe 3690 02:43:59,990 --> 02:43:56,399 is 18 billion years old 3691 02:44:02,230 --> 02:44:00,000 doesn't mean anything to anyone 3692 02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:02,240 unless they live on this little planet 3693 02:44:06,710 --> 02:44:04,000 around this little un 3694 02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:06,720 unremarkable sun at the edge of this 3695 02:44:12,230 --> 02:44:09,920 really not very extraordinary galaxy of 3696 02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:12,240 which there are trillions of 3697 02:44:16,790 --> 02:44:14,640 and so the and people go well no time is 3698 02:44:19,510 --> 02:44:16,800 time you know this is this is the great 3699 02:44:21,830 --> 02:44:19,520 fallacy of isaac newton um 3700 02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:21,840 i i always call it newton's clock tick 3701 02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:25,200 tock tick tock every second was the same 3702 02:44:30,389 --> 02:44:28,240 it was like a water wheel with with time 3703 02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:30,399 flowing through it and that a second was 3704 02:44:34,550 --> 02:44:32,479 the same and einstein destroyed that 3705 02:44:36,230 --> 02:44:34,560 concept when he 3706 02:44:38,710 --> 02:44:36,240 theoretically showed and later 3707 02:44:40,630 --> 02:44:38,720 experimentally validated that as 3708 02:44:43,910 --> 02:44:40,640 something accelerates toward the speed 3709 02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:43,920 of light time slows down until it stops 3710 02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:46,880 so that in itself is a mind-bender but i 3711 02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,439 don't want to stop there just right yet 3712 02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:51,920 i want to talk about chronocentricity 3713 02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:53,520 and if you think if that's such a big 3714 02:44:57,750 --> 02:44:55,600 deal ask someone who lives in 3715 02:44:59,429 --> 02:44:57,760 switzerland or get a sense of someone 3716 02:45:01,990 --> 02:44:59,439 who lives in switzerland and what their 3717 02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:02,000 understanding of time is and then go 50 3718 02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:03,760 miles to the south and go to northern 3719 02:45:07,269 --> 02:45:05,680 italy and ask someone what their sense 3720 02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:07,279 of time is 3721 02:45:16,469 --> 02:45:13,600 precise and exacting so much that swiss 3722 02:45:19,590 --> 02:45:16,479 watches switch swiss swiss clocks in 3723 02:45:20,630 --> 02:45:19,600 fact in modern times the swiss ephemeris 3724 02:45:22,630 --> 02:45:20,640 is the 3725 02:45:24,710 --> 02:45:22,640 timekeeping thing that astrologers use 3726 02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:24,720 all over the planet 3727 02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:27,120 and in italy to get a train to come 3728 02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:30,000 close to being exact on time anywhere is 3729 02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:34,720 crazy because in italy time is emotional 3730 02:45:39,349 --> 02:45:36,640 you know it's a different sense of time 3731 02:45:40,469 --> 02:45:39,359 just by a couple of hundred miles of 3732 02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:40,479 distance 3733 02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:42,479 and so the idea 3734 02:45:49,830 --> 02:45:47,040 that that for us time is measured by the 3735 02:45:52,550 --> 02:45:49,840 planet and it's not just 3736 02:45:55,030 --> 02:45:52,560 the earth going around the sun although 3737 02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:55,040 that is what measures a year 3738 02:45:59,349 --> 02:45:56,800 we also as i mentioned at the very 3739 02:46:02,630 --> 02:45:59,359 beginning mercury goes around the sun 3740 02:46:06,070 --> 02:46:02,640 four times a year once for each season 3741 02:46:08,150 --> 02:46:06,080 you know that that the interrelationship 3742 02:46:09,190 --> 02:46:08,160 between the movement of the various 3743 02:46:11,269 --> 02:46:09,200 planets 3744 02:46:14,550 --> 02:46:11,279 all have their own 3745 02:46:17,429 --> 02:46:14,560 cycles their own um their own way of 3746 02:46:19,830 --> 02:46:17,439 expressing the energy but they're all 3747 02:46:20,710 --> 02:46:19,840 objects that are going around something 3748 02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:20,720 else 3749 02:46:26,230 --> 02:46:23,600 in a form that makes that repeat and 3750 02:46:29,910 --> 02:46:26,240 this is the basis of music pythagoras 3751 02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:29,920 who gave us the you know 12 note scale 3752 02:46:34,950 --> 02:46:32,399 um you know uh you know with the you 3753 02:46:37,030 --> 02:46:34,960 know seven white seven you know seven 3754 02:46:39,590 --> 02:46:37,040 natural notes and the five black you 3755 02:46:42,950 --> 02:46:39,600 know or you know chromatic notes that 3756 02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:42,960 this 12-note scale was created by a guy 3757 02:46:47,190 --> 02:46:44,960 who understood that everything in the 3758 02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:47,200 universe was vibrating 3759 02:46:53,590 --> 02:46:50,080 and that no vibration can arise by 3760 02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:53,600 itself every vibration arises in 3761 02:46:57,269 --> 02:46:55,760 sympathy or harmony with other 3762 02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,279 vibrations 3763 02:47:01,830 --> 02:46:59,840 and that the way we measure a vibration 3764 02:47:03,429 --> 02:47:01,840 is how many times does the cycle 3765 02:47:05,429 --> 02:47:03,439 complete itself 3766 02:47:07,349 --> 02:47:05,439 in a given 3767 02:47:08,469 --> 02:47:07,359 measured unit 3768 02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:08,479 of 3769 02:47:13,230 --> 02:47:10,000 time 3770 02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:13,240 and so we think of music for example as 3771 02:47:19,510 --> 02:47:17,600 440 or 432 cycles per second 3772 02:47:21,990 --> 02:47:19,520 that's that's a particular note that we 3773 02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:22,000 can hear with our ears 3774 02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:23,200 but 3775 02:47:26,870 --> 02:47:24,560 you know uh 3776 02:47:29,190 --> 02:47:26,880 like i said earlier saturn 3777 02:47:32,710 --> 02:47:29,200 is a revolution of something around the 3778 02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:32,720 center and its time is three beats per 3779 02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:36,000 century roughly not quite but about that 3780 02:47:41,110 --> 02:47:38,160 and so the the actual 3781 02:47:44,150 --> 02:47:41,120 time itself is a form of living 3782 02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:44,160 breathing repeatable cycles that are 3783 02:47:50,150 --> 02:47:46,960 measured just like we measure music and 3784 02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:50,160 that's why the whole geometry of of 3785 02:47:55,429 --> 02:47:53,359 astrology and the geometry of chromatics 3786 02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,439 and music you know you have cycles of 3787 02:47:59,750 --> 02:47:57,359 fourths and fifths in music right you're 3788 02:48:02,150 --> 02:47:59,760 dividing rhythms up by frequencies to 3789 02:48:05,030 --> 02:48:02,160 get other notes i think the future of 3790 02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:05,040 astrology will largely be in that realm 3791 02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:07,840 of mathematical harmonic manipulation 3792 02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:10,160 that we just don't have the tools yet 3793 02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:13,680 although we're getting there why is a 3794 02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:16,960 sense of time different for everybody 3795 02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:18,000 and 3796 02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:22,880 it it's it's been measured in 3797 02:48:26,469 --> 02:48:24,800 laboratories there's no question about 3798 02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:26,479 that but 3799 02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:28,960 for me and it has to be the same for 3800 02:48:32,389 --> 02:48:31,600 everybody else i would think largely 3801 02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:32,399 that 3802 02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:35,359 2020 and 2021 3803 02:48:40,870 --> 02:48:37,600 nearly didn't exist 3804 02:48:43,510 --> 02:48:40,880 that we blasted through those years 3805 02:48:44,469 --> 02:48:43,520 it it did it happened in in the blink of 3806 02:48:46,389 --> 02:48:44,479 an eye 3807 02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:46,399 and as we were going through him it felt 3808 02:48:51,429 --> 02:48:49,120 like march never ended that's right why 3809 02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:51,439 isn't that incredible 3810 02:48:56,630 --> 02:48:54,319 well that's that that's the paradox 3811 02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,640 uh albert einstein was once asked can 3812 02:49:02,469 --> 02:48:58,800 you explain relativity to me like really 3813 02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:02,479 simply and he said yes i can he said did 3814 02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:04,080 you ever notice that putting your hand 3815 02:49:08,790 --> 02:49:06,640 on a hot stove for a second feels like a 3816 02:49:11,990 --> 02:49:08,800 minute but being with a beautiful woman 3817 02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:12,000 for an hour feels like a minute 3818 02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:13,760 well said 3819 02:49:17,830 --> 02:49:16,160 and you know outpour albert had his own 3820 02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:17,840 issues with women that we don't want to 3821 02:49:22,389 --> 02:49:21,040 necessarily touch here but the fact of 3822 02:49:24,550 --> 02:49:22,399 the matter is 3823 02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:24,560 that that in the 3824 02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:27,840 realm of newton's clock where time was 3825 02:49:33,429 --> 02:49:30,640 an independent variable that you that 3826 02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:33,439 that you could do a physics experiment 3827 02:49:37,830 --> 02:49:35,680 and that things would be unchangeable 3828 02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:37,840 whether you did the experiment on 3829 02:49:45,269 --> 02:49:41,600 january 3rd at 3 in the morning or on 3830 02:49:47,590 --> 02:49:45,279 july 18th five years later at midnight 3831 02:49:49,429 --> 02:49:47,600 that time was independent of the 3832 02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:49,439 physical things that occurred this is 3833 02:49:54,550 --> 02:49:51,520 like one of the basic concepts of 3834 02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:54,560 physics and chemistry is that is that an 3835 02:49:59,750 --> 02:49:57,520 experiment to be scientific can be 3836 02:50:02,630 --> 02:49:59,760 validated by doing it again and again 3837 02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:02,640 and again and time does not impact these 3838 02:50:07,910 --> 02:50:05,040 experiments unfortunately that's turned 3839 02:50:11,349 --> 02:50:07,920 out to be not true that there that that 3840 02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:11,359 that time itself does have quality not 3841 02:50:16,309 --> 02:50:13,840 just measurable quantity 3842 02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:16,319 and it's like there are times in our 3843 02:50:21,269 --> 02:50:18,720 lives forget about the joint shared 3844 02:50:24,389 --> 02:50:21,279 things that we all have the the major 3845 02:50:26,870 --> 02:50:24,399 cultural events uh um uh 3846 02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:26,880 the bombing of hiroshima or or the 3847 02:50:31,990 --> 02:50:29,520 assassination of of um kennedy or the 3848 02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:32,000 world trade tower bombing or whatever it 3849 02:50:37,670 --> 02:50:34,880 is we experience these moments together 3850 02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:37,680 but then in our own individual lives 3851 02:50:41,670 --> 02:50:39,600 we have years where we can barely 3852 02:50:43,750 --> 02:50:41,680 remember what happened yeah i was doing 3853 02:50:45,429 --> 02:50:43,760 this then and blah blah blah blah and 3854 02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:45,439 then we have other times in our life 3855 02:50:50,230 --> 02:50:48,160 where all hell breaks loose and day by 3856 02:50:52,550 --> 02:50:50,240 day week by week month by month for a 3857 02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:52,560 year or so everything is in flux and 3858 02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:54,160 everything changes 3859 02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:56,880 and and and there's something about the 3860 02:51:02,630 --> 02:50:59,920 nature of time that the more events that 3861 02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:02,640 are squeezed into whatever this thing is 3862 02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:04,479 that we call time 3863 02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:06,640 the longer it seems the more complicated 3864 02:51:11,750 --> 02:51:09,120 it is but that when we're on the far 3865 02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:11,760 side of it our perception of it changes 3866 02:51:15,429 --> 02:51:13,760 um i mean i think that and i think that 3867 02:51:17,429 --> 02:51:15,439 there's one other wonderful thought here 3868 02:51:20,230 --> 02:51:17,439 that came to me from another astrologer 3869 02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:20,240 many years ago and that is we don't move 3870 02:51:24,790 --> 02:51:21,920 through time 3871 02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:24,800 time moves through us 3872 02:51:29,510 --> 02:51:27,279 expand on that because i love it 3873 02:51:31,590 --> 02:51:29,520 it's just it's just that there's this 3874 02:51:34,309 --> 02:51:31,600 moving landscape 3875 02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:34,319 that we call time but it's an internal 3876 02:51:38,950 --> 02:51:35,600 processing 3877 02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:38,960 that that scientists agree with the 3878 02:51:45,429 --> 02:51:41,279 mystics who say 3879 02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:45,439 that linear time that is a timeline i 3880 02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,479 was born here i died here you know that 3881 02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:50,479 thing that that that that whole idea of 3882 02:51:57,910 --> 02:51:53,920 measuring time on a timeline history um 3883 02:52:00,550 --> 02:51:57,920 is basically a figment of having an old 3884 02:52:03,110 --> 02:52:00,560 reptile brain the um the abdullah 3885 02:52:06,469 --> 02:52:03,120 melangada the part of the brain that 3886 02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:06,479 gives us that that um sense of cause and 3887 02:52:12,070 --> 02:52:07,520 effect 3888 02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:12,080 something that is an illusion that 3889 02:52:17,030 --> 02:52:14,080 exists within a certain frequency of 3890 02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:17,040 things in our world that we live in you 3891 02:52:21,190 --> 02:52:19,200 know there are certain things that are 3892 02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:21,200 cause and effect that we can expect if i 3893 02:52:25,190 --> 02:52:23,680 take a cell phone and drop it it'll land 3894 02:52:27,349 --> 02:52:25,200 on the ground and if the ground's hard 3895 02:52:28,790 --> 02:52:27,359 it'll break i mean this is that's a 3896 02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:28,800 cause and effect 3897 02:52:33,429 --> 02:52:31,600 but if i go into the microcosmic world 3898 02:52:35,830 --> 02:52:33,439 things don't have that same cause and 3899 02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:35,840 effect this is part of the problem that 3900 02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:37,840 scientists began to 3901 02:52:40,230 --> 02:52:38,800 um 3902 02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,240 to deal with 3903 02:52:44,790 --> 02:52:42,640 to try to understand when they started 3904 02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:44,800 measuring the movement of these 3905 02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:46,640 subatomic 3906 02:52:50,630 --> 02:52:48,560 things they didn't know what they were 3907 02:52:53,269 --> 02:52:50,640 but they weren't conforming to the 3908 02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:53,279 newtonian mechanics of if these two 3909 02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:54,880 things bumped together one should go 3910 02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:57,200 that way and one should go that way and 3911 02:53:01,990 --> 02:52:59,760 the whole indeterminacy of quantum 3912 02:53:03,830 --> 02:53:02,000 physics basically took that whole idea 3913 02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:03,840 of cause and effect and turned it on 3914 02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:05,520 turned it on its ear 3915 02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:08,319 so much to the fact that there is 3916 02:53:13,510 --> 02:53:11,600 question now in modern physics about can 3917 02:53:15,190 --> 02:53:13,520 time move in two directions right 3918 02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:15,200 there's a study in physics called 3919 02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:17,439 retrocausality yep this is going to 3920 02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:19,840 sound crazy but retrocausality 3921 02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:21,600 is the scientific study of how the 3922 02:53:25,510 --> 02:53:23,600 future impacts the present 3923 02:53:27,030 --> 02:53:25,520 and i tell clients all the time well you 3924 02:53:29,510 --> 02:53:27,040 can't change the future you can only 3925 02:53:31,030 --> 02:53:29,520 change the past and they go that's crazy 3926 02:53:32,630 --> 02:53:31,040 what do you mean you can't change the 3927 02:53:35,030 --> 02:53:32,640 past that's fixed 3928 02:53:36,550 --> 02:53:35,040 i go well tell me about your belief in 3929 02:53:39,269 --> 02:53:36,560 santa claus when you were three years 3930 02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:39,279 old or five years old or or about your 3931 02:53:44,309 --> 02:53:42,319 belief of columbus as a hero until you 3932 02:53:46,870 --> 02:53:44,319 discovered a different perception you've 3933 02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:46,880 altered history history is not the same 3934 02:53:51,910 --> 02:53:49,600 as it was history only exists in the 3935 02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:51,920 present moment as a construct of 3936 02:53:56,790 --> 02:53:54,160 consciousness in this moment now the 3937 02:53:59,670 --> 02:53:56,800 great mystics will tell us from 3938 02:54:02,950 --> 02:53:59,680 catholic christian mysticism to buddhism 3939 02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:02,960 to hinduism they will tell us that in 3940 02:54:08,230 --> 02:54:05,680 the non-physical realm 3941 02:54:11,190 --> 02:54:08,240 everything that ever existed 3942 02:54:12,710 --> 02:54:11,200 and everything that ever will exist 3943 02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:12,720 exists now 3944 02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:14,800 we just get a slice of it as we move 3945 02:54:19,349 --> 02:54:16,720 through it 3946 02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:19,359 i am having i am having the craziest 3947 02:54:24,950 --> 02:54:22,000 deja vu right now 3948 02:54:26,150 --> 02:54:24,960 right now i mean like the craziest deja 3949 02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:26,160 vu 3950 02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:27,760 right now 3951 02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:31,840 it's insane okay and and in this deja vu 3952 02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:34,560 i asked this question and now i cannot 3953 02:54:39,110 --> 02:54:36,800 stop myself from doing it because the 3954 02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:39,120 deja vu is going to play itself out 3955 02:54:42,790 --> 02:54:41,120 and the question is this 3956 02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:42,800 how can we 3957 02:54:47,269 --> 02:54:45,600 slow down time 3958 02:54:52,550 --> 02:54:47,279 how can we 3959 02:54:56,630 --> 02:54:54,230 well again i would come back to the 3960 02:54:58,469 --> 02:54:56,640 buddhist concept that i said earlier 3961 02:55:00,870 --> 02:54:58,479 that you said earlier and that is 3962 02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:00,880 awareness right that the only thing we 3963 02:55:07,349 --> 02:55:03,359 can change is our awareness and our 3964 02:55:10,070 --> 02:55:07,359 awareness can in fact um change time it 3965 02:55:13,910 --> 02:55:10,080 can slow it down so that a 3966 02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:13,920 um a a kung fu master a bruce lee can 3967 02:55:19,429 --> 02:55:16,399 move at speeds that are incomprehensible 3968 02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:19,439 we can't even imagine and yet that brain 3969 02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:22,160 has been practiced and trained to slow 3970 02:55:25,750 --> 02:55:24,000 time down enough it's like neo in the 3971 02:55:27,750 --> 02:55:25,760 matrix you know that that scene where 3972 02:55:29,590 --> 02:55:27,760 he's just kind of relaxed you know just 3973 02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:29,600 kind of you know meeting every punch 3974 02:55:34,389 --> 02:55:32,000 that comes in because the sense of time 3975 02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:34,399 has changed and that's about awareness 3976 02:55:40,389 --> 02:55:37,439 when we panic when we're frightened when 3977 02:55:42,150 --> 02:55:40,399 we're worried time speeds up 3978 02:55:44,710 --> 02:55:42,160 and we don't have enough time to think 3979 02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:44,720 about or to react or we are we react and 3980 02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:46,399 we don't have enough time to think about 3981 02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:49,520 how we might want to respond whereas the 3982 02:55:54,230 --> 02:55:51,680 master whatever that might be in 3983 02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:54,240 whatever discipline the master is the 3984 02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:56,720 person who can be in that same 3985 02:56:02,389 --> 02:56:00,160 heightened crazy situation and yet move 3986 02:56:04,550 --> 02:56:02,399 at a speed that's calm and relaxed and 3987 02:56:08,230 --> 02:56:04,560 deal with everything because in that 3988 02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,240 person's mind time has been altered time 3989 02:56:13,670 --> 02:56:10,800 doesn't exist out there the planetary 3990 02:56:15,590 --> 02:56:13,680 movement does but how we respond to it 3991 02:56:16,630 --> 02:56:15,600 exists in here 3992 02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:16,640 so 3993 02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:19,840 if i'm understanding you correctly 3994 02:56:23,590 --> 02:56:22,080 and i appreciate this too i just had 3995 02:56:27,110 --> 02:56:23,600 this moment 3996 02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:27,120 if we have more awareness 3997 02:56:36,230 --> 02:56:33,750 then time would slow down 3998 02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:36,240 something as basic as 3999 02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:38,720 don't sleep as much and 4000 02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:41,439 have more hours in your day for instance 4001 02:56:45,349 --> 02:56:42,960 i would like to agree with that but 4002 02:56:47,750 --> 02:56:45,359 there's another factor at play and that 4003 02:56:51,510 --> 02:56:47,760 is when you're five years old 4004 02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:51,520 um a summer vacation is like 4005 02:56:56,389 --> 02:56:53,600 one quarter of your entire life yeah 4006 02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:56,399 that is correct yes when you're 70 years 4007 02:57:00,630 --> 02:56:58,720 old a summer vacation is like 4008 02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:00,640 corresponding to what an afternoon would 4009 02:57:03,990 --> 02:57:02,240 be when you're four or five that is 4010 02:57:06,309 --> 02:57:04,000 correct so there's something also that's 4011 02:57:09,429 --> 02:57:06,319 the opposite and that's the closer we 4012 02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:09,439 get to death the faster time goes 4013 02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:10,720 and 4014 02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:13,279 that's an interesting point 4015 02:57:17,750 --> 02:57:15,600 because when you're five years old three 4016 02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:17,760 months your summer vacation is a big 4017 02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:19,279 chunk of your life 4018 02:57:25,030 --> 02:57:22,319 right waiting for christmas or waiting 4019 02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:25,040 for your next birthday yeah right is one 4020 02:57:29,750 --> 02:57:27,680 fourth of your life right yes 4021 02:57:31,510 --> 02:57:29,760 right right now it's like tick i had my 4022 02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:31,520 last birthday tick i had another one 4023 02:57:35,030 --> 02:57:33,359 geez yeah it's like they feel like 4024 02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:35,040 they're coming once a month 4025 02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:36,880 so there must be a way to slow it down 4026 02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:38,240 so what do we do 4027 02:57:46,870 --> 02:57:44,790 does that slow it down yeah would that 4028 02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:46,880 slow down if i had to wait 10 years for 4029 02:57:51,110 --> 02:57:48,960 my next birthday 4030 02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:51,120 yeah very interesting 4031 02:57:55,269 --> 02:57:52,080 so 4032 02:57:58,070 --> 02:57:55,279 much information tonight uh rick i mean 4033 02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:58,080 now uh you you just mentioned 4034 02:58:02,710 --> 02:58:00,880 you do your daily stuff on ig 4035 02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:02,720 um how often and that's and that's 4036 02:58:07,590 --> 02:58:04,479 instagram.com 4037 02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:07,600 rick levine astrologer and what about uh 4038 02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:10,720 youtube how often do you get that done 4039 02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:13,200 well i do a monthly report that's about 4040 02:58:18,469 --> 02:58:15,359 an hour long and that's free that's 4041 02:58:22,150 --> 02:58:18,479 always on uh that's youtube.com 4042 02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:22,160 rick levine no astrologer um but i do a 4043 02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:24,640 lot of other youtube stuff by prescript 4044 02:58:31,269 --> 02:58:27,760 my prescription by subscription 4045 02:58:32,870 --> 02:58:31,279 um uh that i do through patreon 4046 02:58:34,389 --> 02:58:32,880 and that's for people who want to dig 4047 02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:34,399 deeper i do 4048 02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:36,880 weekly stuff i do interviews i do online 4049 02:58:40,469 --> 02:58:38,720 chart interpretation i have an 4050 02:58:43,110 --> 02:58:40,479 apprentice program so i'm doing a lot of 4051 02:58:45,190 --> 02:58:43,120 stuff online that's not for the wider 4052 02:58:48,309 --> 02:58:45,200 public if you're more interested in 4053 02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:48,319 digging deeper into astrology 4054 02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:51,439 then that stuff is you know is for you i 4055 02:58:55,190 --> 02:58:53,279 also do a lot of stuff with a site 4056 02:58:57,670 --> 02:58:55,200 called astrology hub the 4057 02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:57,680 astrologyhub.com 4058 02:59:03,190 --> 02:59:00,160 and i have courses in the fundamentals 4059 02:59:05,110 --> 02:59:03,200 of astrology through astrology hub um i 4060 02:59:07,429 --> 02:59:05,120 do an every other week talk show 4061 02:59:11,750 --> 02:59:07,439 interview with the founder of astrology 4062 02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:11,760 hub um and and they're all available um 4063 02:59:15,510 --> 02:59:13,279 online 4064 02:59:17,349 --> 02:59:15,520 we've talked about stuff like you know 4065 02:59:19,190 --> 02:59:17,359 reincarnation 4066 02:59:20,550 --> 02:59:19,200 which is one of my top topics that i'll 4067 02:59:22,870 --> 02:59:20,560 be talking about 4068 02:59:24,710 --> 02:59:22,880 um at the whole life expo and it'll be a 4069 02:59:27,190 --> 02:59:24,720 very different take on reincarnation 4070 02:59:28,870 --> 02:59:27,200 that anyone has ever heard the title of 4071 02:59:31,670 --> 02:59:28,880 the talk is actually consciousness 4072 02:59:33,990 --> 02:59:31,680 coincarnay 4073 02:59:36,710 --> 02:59:34,000 you've got a full weekend you've got uh 4074 02:59:39,990 --> 02:59:36,720 your lecture on saturday i do i do they 4075 02:59:40,830 --> 02:59:40,000 have me working yeah the astrology panel 4076 02:59:43,429 --> 02:59:40,840 on 4077 02:59:45,510 --> 02:59:43,439 saturday uh sunday 4078 02:59:48,790 --> 02:59:45,520 it's the astrology concarnate lecture 4079 02:59:51,590 --> 02:59:48,800 yep and uh your wtf 4080 02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:51,600 on monday uh planets in your pocket on 4081 02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:54,080 monday and uh right in your pocket is a 4082 02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:56,399 fun one because normally in astrology 4083 02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:57,760 we're reaching up and trying to 4084 03:00:02,710 --> 02:59:59,760 understand what's up there what's out 4085 03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:02,720 there it's it's that and yet 4086 03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:04,720 my contention is you don't have to know 4087 03:00:08,230 --> 03:00:06,160 how to make a chart you don't have to 4088 03:00:10,230 --> 03:00:08,240 know where any planets are in your sign 4089 03:00:12,550 --> 03:00:10,240 in your in your own chart but if you 4090 03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:12,560 understand the archetypes the basic 4091 03:00:18,469 --> 03:00:16,240 archetypes of the planets they're always 4092 03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,479 always in your pocket and if you know 4093 03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:20,640 how to reach into your pocket and pull 4094 03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:22,240 jupiter out when you need some 4095 03:00:26,870 --> 03:00:24,640 confidence or to pull mars out when you 4096 03:00:28,870 --> 03:00:26,880 need some ability to assert your energy 4097 03:00:30,469 --> 03:00:28,880 and you know the understanding of them 4098 03:00:32,150 --> 03:00:30,479 these planets are always there as 4099 03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:32,160 helpers and there are ways to access 4100 03:00:36,070 --> 03:00:34,240 them the planets in your pocket thank 4101 03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:36,080 you so much rick i look forward to not 4102 03:00:41,030 --> 03:00:38,160 only hanging out with you uh next 4103 03:00:43,110 --> 03:00:41,040 weekend at the conscious life expo but 4104 03:00:45,110 --> 03:00:43,120 our next conversation here on fade to 4105 03:00:46,710 --> 03:00:45,120 block thank you so much i learned so 4106 03:00:48,150 --> 03:00:46,720 much tonight what a great conversation 4107 03:00:49,910 --> 03:00:48,160 it's been a real privilege thank you 4108 03:00:52,950 --> 03:00:49,920 it's uh fun you're a good interviewer oh 4109 03:00:55,429 --> 03:00:52,960 no you're you're a great guest 4110 03:00:58,309 --> 03:00:55,439 any but my dog malcolm could have done 4111 03:01:00,230 --> 03:00:58,319 this interview tonight thank you so much 4112 03:01:02,309 --> 03:01:00,240 thank you so much rick enjoy the rest of 4113 03:01:05,670 --> 03:01:02,319 the week yeah exactly 4114 03:01:07,550 --> 03:01:05,680 rick levine star iq.com by the way and 4115 03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:07,560 the links are over at 4116 03:01:11,190 --> 03:01:09,200 jimmychurchradio.com 4117 03:01:13,110 --> 03:01:11,200 and uh just one bumper to bumper pull 4118 03:01:15,269 --> 03:01:13,120 the pole with rick levine tonight great 4119 03:01:17,590 --> 03:01:15,279 conversation fade to black is produced 4120 03:01:19,590 --> 03:01:17,600 by hill j palmer nate dennis and kevin 4121 03:01:22,150 --> 03:01:19,600 announcers are steve harter gene vettel 4122 03:01:25,950 --> 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